- nebc100
- Member Since: 08 Mar 2019
- Location: Altlinster
- Posts: 399
My 2 cents is to stay as far away from these "tuning boxes" as possible.
If you want a tune, get it remapped properly.
It isn't worth taking a risk with the engine!!
BUT... is 300bhp not enough?
- Keith
- Member Since: 24 May 2021
- Location: Scotland
- Posts: 81
nebc100
Many thanks for the resp[once, and good point!
i have received a PM from another group member, that points out that improvements, but also mentioned the possibility of limp mode being activated as well.
Yes, 300bhp is allot, and a torque of 650nm is excellent, but its the torigue increase that appeals rather then the power.
My M5C, was well over 625ps, and 750nm of torque, but it was little use of road for some reason....
A remap would be the better option, and given that the same engines are in the RRS and FFRR and are rated at 350bhp, then there must be the ability to get this from the engine without to much of ash issue, its just finding out how. Shame LR don't off this option.
Keith
- nebc100
- Member Since: 08 Mar 2019
- Location: Altlinster
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I don't meant to be rude, but a D5 is not the same type of vehicle as a M5C.
If you wanted that type of vehicle, with that type of power, then you should have stayed with that vehicle.
Up to you, but I would not touch one of these "tuning boxes" with a €70000+ vehicle.
The choice is yours though....
- Keith
- Member Since: 24 May 2021
- Location: Scotland
- Posts: 81
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nebc100
Not being rude at all, but also you have missed the point i think, fully aware the vehicles are different, hence why I've gone back to LR.
My previous LR Sport 4.4 TDV8 had masses of torque, and its that what i miss. the D series can be tuned to circa 700nm, and it is this increase i am after, for towing and for when off road.
Only considering the idea of a box, as it can be easily removed, but also I'm aware of allot of issues surrounding these, hence the question ...
"So.... has anyone in D5 land used one? and if so, what were the results like? "
Keith
- Trevorb1
- Member Since: 08 Jan 2018
- Location: Nuneaton
- Posts: 275
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Just be aware that the ecu's will log these changes and will void any powertrain related warranty aspects. I doubt the transfer case will take that amount of torque, its very different to the t case in L405 & L494.
24MY D300 Dynamic SE, Fuji White, Deployable Towbar, full size spare.
Gone 20MY SDV6 Landmark, Indus Silver, Deployable Towbar, 360 Cameras
- Darras
- Member Since: 16 May 2020
- Location: Newcastle
- Posts: 749
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I’d be worried about voiding the insurance tbh, but also cautious about voiding warranties.
Removing it is fine if you are able to post accident and if you did and the Police were called, you’d be tampering with evidence.
- Keith
- Member Since: 24 May 2021
- Location: Scotland
- Posts: 81
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Trevorb1
Points noted, but i though the FFRR, RRS, D5 and New Defender all used the same chassis (90%), and power trains?? but i could be wrong.
Darras
Warranties is the big concern, and the risk is something that needs to be considered. As for insurance, well I'm one of those people that simply declare everything, given my profession, so the insurance coy would know about any mods, and i would seek there approval before making these mods.
- Trevorb1
- Member Since: 08 Jan 2018
- Location: Nuneaton
- Posts: 275
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Keith, chassis for them all are very similar, however, the actual driveline are different. FFRR & RRS are legacy traditional 4wd with mechanical centre diff to split the torque front to back with a lock up clutch to limit slip between front and rear. 21MY D5 & I6 Defender start with RWD and use a clutch to transfer torque to front driveline, and a disconnect module on front RH driveshaft to disconnect drive, in low torques, the front prop and crown wheel and pinion in front diff will stop rotating completely resulting in a purely RWD vehicle, all done for emissions / fuel saving. The clutch can only transmit a certain amount of torque to the front and will then slip.
24MY D300 Dynamic SE, Fuji White, Deployable Towbar, full size spare.
Gone 20MY SDV6 Landmark, Indus Silver, Deployable Towbar, 360 Cameras
- Keith
- Member Since: 24 May 2021
- Location: Scotland
- Posts: 81
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Trevorb1
Thats actually very interesting, and explains why i get a little spin on the rear wheels when pulling away from the house, as the entrance has loose road debris on it.
So does this also explain the change in colour of the central diff when looking at info screen that shows the wheels and drive info?
Keep the Tech stuff coming, although i may now start sending PM's with Tech questions.
Keith
- Darras
- Member Since: 16 May 2020
- Location: Newcastle
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Understand what you say. I recall changing my wheels from 20” to 22” and the insurance took bad to it. I got insured, increased premium, but wouldn’t have done it if I’d known all the trouble it would cause tbh. Anything at all modded and they want informed.
- Keith
- Member Since: 24 May 2021
- Location: Scotland
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Darras
I’ve had insurance decline to quite, and also try to increase my premium because I require hand controls to dive as my legs don’t work as well as most others and I use a wheelchair, on the other hand…. I’ve had insurance reduced because of the same.
Allot if choices to think about, and risk to be considered…
Keith
