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- Wolfpack
- Member Since: 25 May 2019
- Location: Norfolk, UK
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Well that’s a serious level of seal lift you have there.
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- JBFUK
- Member Since: 25 Apr 2022
- Location: South East
- Posts: 92
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- Wolfpack
- Member Since: 25 May 2019
- Location: Norfolk, UK
- Posts: 538
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- JBFUK
- Member Since: 25 Apr 2022
- Location: South East
- Posts: 92
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- JBFUK
- Member Since: 25 Apr 2022
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- Wolfpack
- Member Since: 25 May 2019
- Location: Norfolk, UK
- Posts: 538
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I removed the external A pillar trims but the access gap along the top seal is too small to allow any sealant nozzle that way.
The only way to attempt sealing would be to drop the headliner and go up inside.
The visible rubber trim along the windscreen top edge is bonded to the glass so you can’t remove it to gain access along the top.
In fact this trim is a bit of a puzzle!
1) How come someone can securely bond THAT strip to the windscreen (mine was firmly attached to the removed windscreen ) but they cannot bond the windscreen to the car?
2) That rubber trim is purely cosmetic. It is NOT a water seal!!. It’s behind this strip that all the water gains access to the windscreen sealant. Take a look where the rubber crosses the roof rail ditch. It is stretched across the ditch and doesn’t even touch the bodywork. Pour a cup of water anywhere along that ditch and it goes straight to the scene of the leak. In fact water gets behind that rubber strip all the way across the roof.
I rattled on a lot about my windscreen leak for quite a few months. Being retired I had the luxury of not having to go out when it’s raining…so I’ve avoided leaks a lot of the time, but tried to stop them.
One of the points I discovered early on was that the rubber trim bonded to the glass wasn’t leaking. I created a dam along that rubber gulley and nothing got through. The water only reached the leak when I over filled that dam and water went behind the trim where it crossed the ditch. I poured water at A.
It then became apparent that you can easily allow water to get behind that rubber trim ANYWHERE along the roof. It’s not a waterproof seal! It’s just there is a greater opportunity for water ingress where the seal isn’t intimately touching the bodywork… across the ditch end.
Regarding drying the floor well…I actually put a domestic dehumidifier in the car overnight and that took out a load of moisture. But the key thing for me was to have a tray with water absorbing material on the dashboard under the leak …to catch it before it did more damage. Bear in mind I could identify the exact (lowest point) drip point in the headliner on mine…so I just put a catch tray underneath whenever I parked the car away from home. -
- JBFUK
- Member Since: 25 Apr 2022
- Location: South East
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I don't think that trim is purely cosmetic. It isn't the main water seal, that should be the main rubber gasket, but I think it helps to reduce the amount of water that gets to the main seal. Yes if the main seal is good then you shouldn't need it, but....
Anyhow I did drop the headliner last night to make access to the main seal internally a bit easier. Dropping it isn't too difficult, you just need to remove the a-pillar trim, bolts for the sun visor and grab handle. Then pull. Also helps to drop the overhead console unit too.
It hasn't rained much today, but a few showers. So far no signs of new water getting in. If it doesn't rain in any significant way in the next few days I may put the hose on it and then check the inside of the main seal with the inspection camera for any drips. You might think if it doesn't rain, great, let it be. But I'd rather know if it is going to leak so I don't get caught out in a situation where I can't take any action.
This thread should probably be moved into the faults and fixes forum now that it's taken this diversion!
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