Discovery 2017

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  • 747_JK
    Member Since: 26 Jun 2018
    Location: England
    Posts: 499
    United Kingdom 
    2022 Discovery SDV6 HSE Lux Santorini Black

    What could a Discovery 6 be? I asked Co-Pilot...

    Had 5 mins before dinner, so I asked Co-Pilot this:

    The Land Rover Discovery 5 is nearing the end of its life. Land Rover has hinted that it might go more down an MPV-type route for the car, to differentiate it from Defender, but that would be a real shame for purists who want a true 4x4 car, with great off-road ability, and the ability to fit the whole family in, and a tonne of luggage, but who don't want to drive, or dislike the styling of, Defender. Can you propose what a next-generate Land Rover Discovery 6 could look like?


    Copilot said:

    I completely agree with your premise. The risk for JLR is that in trying to differentiate Discovery from Defender, they accidentally destroy what made Discovery special.

    Recent reports suggest JLR is considering a more MPV-inspired direction for the next Discovery, focusing on family practicality and space rather than overlapping with Defender. Autocar has previously reported that JLR sees Discovery's future around concepts such as "family" and "space", with the brand potentially becoming a premium off-road MPV rather than a traditional SUV.

    My view? The answer isn't to turn Discovery into a people carrier. It's to double down on being the world's best family 4x4.

    Discovery 6: "The Family Expedition Vehicle"
    Think of it as:

    Range Rover practicality + Defender capability + Discovery versatility

    Rather than:

    Defender softened into an MPV

      Exterior Design
      Return to Discovery roots
      Take inspiration from Discovery 3 and 4.


      More upright, architectural shape
      Vast glasshouse
      Proper command driving position
      Near-vertical tailgate
      Retain the asymmetric rear number plate recess
      Alpine roof styling cue
      The current Discovery 5 became too sleek and Range Rover-like.


    Discovery 6 should look:

    ✅ purposeful
    ✅ honest
    ✅ practical

    rather than fashionable.

    Key dimensions
      Slightly longer than current Discovery
      Squarer rear end
      Taller roofline
      Short front overhang
      Slightly narrower than Defender 130


    Result:

      Better visibility
      More luggage volume
      Better third-row accommodation
      Off-Road Capability
      This is where Discovery must remain a Land Rover.


    Targets
      300mm+ ground clearance
      Air suspension standard
      Twin-speed transfer box
      Locking centre differential
      Optional rear locker
      900mm wading depth


    Essentially:

    95% of Defender capability

    but in a more family-friendly package.

    Nobody wants a Discovery that loses off-road credibility.

    Interior Philosophy
    This is where the MPV influence should appear.

    Not externally.

    Internally.

    Discovery 6 cabin
    Think airline lounge rather than rugged farm vehicle.

    Features:

      Seven genuinely adult-sized seats
      Sliding second row
      Removable centre console
      Huge storage bins
      Flat-fold rear seating
      No Defender-style exposed bolts.


    No fashion-led gimmicks.

    Just usability.

    The "Boot of Legend"
    This should be the engineering brief.

    Make it the best boot of any SUV on sale.

    Targets
      Over 1,000 litres behind row two
      Over 400 litres behind row three
      Flat loading floor
      Split tailgate returns
      The old Discovery split tailgate was brilliant.


    Bring it back.

    Perfect for:

      dog owners
      football parents
      camping
      shooting/fishing
      family holidays
      Exactly the customers Defender doesn't cater for particularly well.


    Powertrains
    I'd offer three
    D350 diesel

    Still hugely relevant for towing.

    PHEV

    60 to 80 miles electric range.

    EV

    Around 400 miles real-world range.

    Discovery buyers are often towing horseboxes, trailers, caravans and boats.

    A diesel option still makes sense for some markets.

    A Clever Discovery Feature
    Every Land Rover should have a unique party piece.

    For Discovery:

    "Activity Mode"
    The vehicle automatically configures for:

      family holiday
      dog transport
      camping
      football team transport
      towing


    Examples:

    Football mode:

      boot lighting activated
      wet gear storage
      rear climate prioritised
      seat configuration optimised


    A very Discovery feature.

    Styling
    Imagine a blend of:

      Discovery 4
      New Range Rover
      Ineos Grenadier
      original Discovery Vision concept


    The front would have:

      slim LED lamps
      upright nose
      clean grille


    The side:

      slab-sided
      huge glass area
      floating roof


    The rear:

      vertical tailgate
      asymmetrical Discovery design cue
      no excessive lighting gimmicks


    A vehicle that looks like it could drive from Kensington to Kenya without modification.

    The One-Line Pitch
    If I were JLR, I'd position it as:

    "The world's most capable family vehicle."

    Not an MPV.

    Not a luxury SUV.

    Not a Defender alternative.

    A vehicle for people who need:

      seven seats,
      serious luggage space,
      genuine towing ability,
      genuine off-road capability,
      and a more civilised, less macho alternative to Defender.


    That's the Discovery niche that nobody else currently occupies, and I'd argue it's a far stronger proposition than turning it into a premium people carrier.



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  • Mole HD
    Member Since: 19 Nov 2024
    Location: Orkney Islands
    Posts: 898
    Scotland 
    2017 Discovery Td6 HSE Fuji White

    I kinda like that, not too keen on the front but the rest and especially with the split tailgate...8/10.

    Would I buy one? Probably not. If I really wanted to replace or supplement the Bling Barge for any random reason, I'd lay down the cash for another non DPF 2015 Euro 5 compliant Disco 4 without any hesitation....then I'd blank off the EGR and fit a stainless cat and centre box delete exhaust like I did on my old one.

    Helps that we're MOT exempt on the island. Wink
  • bammmy
    Member Since: 29 Jul 2018
    Location: The Scottish Highlands.
    Posts: 152
     

    I like the idea of a more square rear end, better for dogs/storage, also the lay flat second row.
    I love my D5 but greatly miss the above.
  • Wolfpack
    Member Since: 25 May 2019
    Location: Norfolk, UK
    Posts: 582
    United Kingdom 
    2017 Discovery Si6 HSE Corris Grey

    Mole HD wrote:
    I kinda like that, not too keen on the front but the rest and especially with the split tailgate...8/10.

    Would I buy one? Probably not. If I really wanted to replace or supplement the Bling Barge for any random reason, I'd lay down the cash for another non DPF 2015 Euro 5 compliant Disco 4 without any hesitation....then I'd blank off the EGR and fit a stainless cat and centre box delete exhaust like I did on my old one.

    Helps that we're MOT exempt on the island. Wink


    How does that work if you take a ferry to mainland for a visit?
  • Mole HD
    Member Since: 19 Nov 2024
    Location: Orkney Islands
    Posts: 898
    Scotland 
    2017 Discovery Td6 HSE Fuji White

    I'd just take the Bling Barge, it's with me until either one of us rots into the ground I'm afraid. Laughing

    The replacement Disco 4, or indeed a new Disco 6 or whatever they decide to call it, was purely hypothetical...at my age, I've no need to be changing cars for the newest thing every 3 or 4 years. I have a tendency to look at life through rose coloured glasses back to a world without DPF's, EGR's and electric cars to make my life difficult when I get the spanners out.

    I loved my Disco 4...loved the couple of Disco 2's I had before that too, but they're a bit like me, slightly prehistoric and built for times far less complicated.

    It's why I like living up here, it's an archaic way of life that has almost vanished on mainland UK...zero crime, nobody locks anything, the 500 or so of us who live here all know each other and we still catch up on the gossip at the local shop.

    Nobody cares what time of day it is, we're never in that much of a hurry that we're tied to a clock, we don't automatically pull out a mobile phone in public places in order to avoid eye contact or conversation, just in case we miss a friendly smile and a chance to chat and pass the time of day...we don't have or need a local copper and we know the postie and the bin man by their first names.

    Sounds nice, doesn't it? It always does until the realisation sets in that the winters last for 9 months and it takes an entire day and 2 ferries (if you can book a space for your car) just to pop into Tesco. Wink

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  • Wolfpack
    Member Since: 25 May 2019
    Location: Norfolk, UK
    Posts: 582
    United Kingdom 
    2017 Discovery Si6 HSE Corris Grey

    Sounds idyllic…my wife doesn’t like the summer heat anyway!


    No I was referring to the mot exemption.
    If you take the Bling Barge to the mainland you are effectively driving it out of its exemption area. Just wondered if there was some exemption extension for a short stay or are you at risk of exposure to the legal requirements of the mainlanders with respect to mot /insurance validity etc ?
  • Mole HD
    Member Since: 19 Nov 2024
    Location: Orkney Islands
    Posts: 898
    Scotland 
    2017 Discovery Td6 HSE Fuji White

    Most of us who regularly head over to Kirkwall or mainland UK for any reason keep the daily driver car MOT'd and fully road legal for that purpose. There are a few residents who still park their non MOT'd 'island' cars on the pier and take the ferry over to Kirkwall as foot passengers for a bit of supermarket shopping or the odd hospital/dentist appointment. Even with the MOT exemption, there's still a road tax and insurance requirement, same as everywhere else.

    There's no temporary off island MOT exemption except for the express purpose of taking the vehicle to an MOT station (with a booked appointment)...if we're pulled over in Kirkwall without a valid MOT... and the police occasionally do turn up at the pier in Kirkwall to carry out spot checks...it's the same points make prizes consequence as on mainland UK.


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  • Wolfpack
    Member Since: 25 May 2019
    Location: Norfolk, UK
    Posts: 582
    United Kingdom 
    2017 Discovery Si6 HSE Corris Grey

    Thx…we learn something every day.
  • Mole HD
    Member Since: 19 Nov 2024
    Location: Orkney Islands
    Posts: 898
    Scotland 
    2017 Discovery Td6 HSE Fuji White

    Folk who live on the main island usually advertise cars that have failed MOT's or end up with 'more than the car is worth' repair bills for dirt cheap on the local Orkney Merkat place on Facebook and the like for those of us on the outer islands...

    At the cost of few hundred quid for sometimes, what could be a half decent car that they can't realistically sell on Mainland without paying to have it repaired, they'll stick them on the ferry to come out here until they die.

    My son picked up his MOT failure 2014 BMW X3 for £450 (including the cost of sticking it on the ferry), we fitted some new lower wishbones, one wheel bearing and a full set of disks and pads on it then had it MOT'd. Wink
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