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  • Coffeecup
    Member Since: 11 Oct 2018
    Location: Manchester
    Posts: 41
    United Kingdom 

    pre-heating car interior

    Hi all,

    So, my Disco 4 had a pre-heater, that I could access though the screen and set to come on and warm my car up at a set time every day.

    So far, I've discovered the rather dubious ability exists to remotely start my car and let it run for before I get up.

    What I haven't established is any of the following for my 3l HSE Lux
    1/ Does it have a pre-heater (Webasto or otherwise)
    2/ Is there a timer somewhere that I can set to have the car nice and warm the same time every day (like on my Disco 4)
    3/ Is it safe to have use the remote start up and leave the engine running - i.e. can someone break the passenger window, climb in and drive off ?

    All helpful replies welcome,

    Laurence
    15th Oct 2018 2:57 pm
  • B50int
    Member Since: 02 Sep 2018
    Location: Yorkshire
    Posts: 157
    United Kingdom 

    1) and 2) - only if you selected that optional extra.

    For 3) when you enter the car with remote climate running you still have to have the key on you and put your foot on the brake to make the gear selector pop out. The car is only half awake. Can’t be certain about it not being stealable so I only use it on the drive with the gates closed. I think it actually illegal to have it idling roadside with no one in it (in the uk at least). Police, fire and ambulance get exemption and use a ‘run lock’ to power vital equipment with no one in the vehicle. They cut out if you try and drive away without the key so would expect the logic to be similar in the D5.

    Jon
    15th Oct 2018 3:48 pm
  • LancsLad
    Member Since: 22 Aug 2018
    Location: Lancs
    Posts: 147
    United Kingdom 
    2018 Discovery Td6 HSE Santorini Black

    all done through the in-control remote app.
    from what i can see theres no point getting the preheater anymore..?

    not sure about a timer but very easy to use via the app.
    works a treat!
    used it a few times already this autumn Thumbs Up

    no the car is locked and "dark" (screens off etc)key needs to be present and brake pressed to "wake".

    edit..b50 beat me too it..!
    Santorini Black MY 18 HSE Dynamic BLACK TDV6
    15th Oct 2018 3:48 pm
  • SHARKYSHARKS
    Member Since: 11 Oct 2017
    Location: Oldham
    Posts: 159
    United Kingdom 
    2018 Discovery Td6 HSE Lux Carpathian Grey

    I have the Webasto pre heater and remote fob was an extra on order Shocked
    I prefer it to remotely starting the engine Doesn’t attract as much attention
    Spoke to the dealers today and all MY 19 D5s come with it as standard on the HSE Lux Thumbs Up
    15th Oct 2018 4:22 pm
  • JonM
    Member Since: 30 Jun 2016
    Location: North Yorkshire
    Posts: 598
    United Kingdom 
    2022 Discovery SDV6 HSE Carpathian Grey

    As said already - the FBH, timed climate and remote is an option, not standard.

    It's something I used almost every day except in summer with the D4 so I added it to my D5. My thought is that using the FBH also pre-warms the engine so reduces the wear from cold starts whereas using the remote start just lets the engine idle cold for longer. The advice used to be to drive off ASAP after starting the engine on a cold day to help get the oil up to temperature and not to leave it ticking over to warm up. I presume that advice is still valid.

    When you remote start the car, it stays locked and you still need to have the key when you get in to wake the car up and make it drivable so no, someone couldn't just break in and drive off.
    MY2022 D5 HSE D300 - with extra nice bits added
    MY2019 D5 HSE 3.0 SDV6 - sold to a dealer for a crazy price!
    15th Oct 2018 5:27 pm
  • TazDaz
    Member Since: 13 Jul 2018
    Location: SE Essex
    Posts: 157
    England 
    2018 Discovery Si4 HSE Fuji White

    I use the Land Rover Remote app on my phone to set my Timed Climate, you can set the required temperature with that Very Happy
    I also have strange little black fob which I believe can also start the timed climate - never use it cos I can't see a way to set temperature. Anyone know about this thing?


    MY18 Fuji White with Black Pack HSE Si4 2litre >>>PETROL<<< 300bhp
    15th Oct 2018 7:55 pm
  • JonM
    Member Since: 30 Jun 2016
    Location: North Yorkshire
    Posts: 598
    United Kingdom 
    2022 Discovery SDV6 HSE Carpathian Grey

    The remote app starts the engine but yes, you can set the temp.

    Timed climate or your little black remote both run the FBH without the engine running but you can't set the temperature (it just gets nicely warm). Either set the times you want it to run on the vehicle screen or press the button on the fob about 20 minutes before you're going to get in the car.
    MY2022 D5 HSE D300 - with extra nice bits added
    MY2019 D5 HSE 3.0 SDV6 - sold to a dealer for a crazy price!
    15th Oct 2018 8:01 pm
  • TazDaz
    Member Since: 13 Jul 2018
    Location: SE Essex
    Posts: 157
    England 
    2018 Discovery Si4 HSE Fuji White

    Shocked but ,my D5 is a PETROL engine so I don't have a FBH (I think)?!?
    MY18 Fuji White with Black Pack HSE Si4 2litre >>>PETROL<<< 300bhp
    15th Oct 2018 10:24 pm
  • JonM
    Member Since: 30 Jun 2016
    Location: North Yorkshire
    Posts: 598
    United Kingdom 
    2022 Discovery SDV6 HSE Carpathian Grey

    Rolling with laughter Rolling with laughter Rolling with laughter
    Think yourself lucky then.... you've been given a free remote fob tha is utterly useless. Good old LR. Get it on eBay. Wink
    MY2022 D5 HSE D300 - with extra nice bits added
    MY2019 D5 HSE 3.0 SDV6 - sold to a dealer for a crazy price!
    16th Oct 2018 7:03 am
  • Coffeecup
    Member Since: 11 Oct 2018
    Location: Manchester
    Posts: 41
    United Kingdom 

    Thanks JonM for the explanation

    I won't be happy turning the engine on and annoying the neighbours at 6am every morning, so will probably give this feature a miss.

    Unfortunately it appears the car didn't come with the FBH, as I have no menu options for it, so I won't be making use of that either.

    Laurence
    16th Oct 2018 1:47 pm
  • graemesmith1960
    Member Since: 30 Apr 2018
    Location: South Ayrshire
    Posts: 78
    Scotland 

    The D4's webasto heater was way noisier than the D5 with the engine running. On the D4 I could hear a high pitched whine from my kitchen (back of house) when it was running and it used to attract comments from the neighbours. With the D5 I had to go outside to check it was actually running it was so quiet in comparison. For me, in Scotland, its a better solution. In an extremely cold climate the fuel burning heater is better as it warms the engine block as well.
    2019 Sd6 HSE Corris Grey
    16th Oct 2018 7:49 pm
  • RotherhamPete
    Member Since: 01 Apr 2017
    Location: Rotherham
    Posts: 16
    United Kingdom 

    TazDaz wrote:
    Shocked but ,my D5 is a PETROL engine so I don't have a FBH (I think)?!?


    I have a FBH on my petrol D5. It’s a well used accessory.
    16th Oct 2018 8:46 pm
  • DG
    Member Since: 27 Apr 2016
    Location: Surrey
    Posts: 434
    United Kingdom 
    2018 Discovery Sd4 (240) HSE Fuji White

    Not sure why a petrol engine requires a FBH, or FFBH as they are properly known...they were designed to compensate from the highly efficient diesel not producing heat quickly enough to warm the coolant jacket and therefore the cabin heating ...petrol engines on the other hand are so thermodynamically inefficient that they would never need one Confused
    16th Oct 2018 8:52 pm
  • Russell
    Member Since: 26 Jun 2016
    Location: Lydd
    Posts: 1102
    United Kingdom 
    2017 Discovery Td6 First Edition Namib Orange

    Coffeecup wrote:
    Thanks JonM for the explanation

    I won't be happy turning the engine on and annoying the neighbours at 6am every morning, so will probably give this feature a miss.

    Unfortunately it appears the car didn't come with the FBH, as I have no menu options for it, so I won't be making use of that either.

    Laurence

    I would say that the engine on tick over is probbly quiter than a FBH fom my expirience.
    Namib Orange 1st Edition with black roof and wheels.
    Privacy, tow bar, drive pack, surround camera, heated front & rear seats, auto dim door mirrors, side steps, remote Pro, RSE, arm rest fridge dash cam front and rear.
    16th Oct 2018 9:47 pm
  • Blackfly
    Member Since: 15 Jun 2017
    Location: Up North
    Posts: 466
    Canada 
    2017 Discovery Td6 HSE Indus Silver

    graemesmith1960 wrote:
    The D4's webasto heater was way noisier than the D5 with the engine running. On the D4 I could hear a high pitched whine from my kitchen (back of house) when it was running and it used to attract comments from the neighbours. With the D5 I had to go outside to check it was actually running it was so quiet in comparison. For me, in Scotland, its a better solution. In an extremely cold climate the fuel burning heater is better as it warms the engine block as well.


    its all relative when it comes to temperature I live at about the same latitude as Bordeaux Very Happy . I do use the auto start of the app when e at about -10C. and as been noted, the engine is relatively quite.




    F50, Fourtack, LR3 and now..............D5 HSE TDV6
    16th Oct 2018 9:49 pm
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