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- Chopsy
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- Location: Warwickshire
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- Gruber
- Member Since: 16 Nov 2019
- Location: Warsaw
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- mordred1973
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- Location: Northamptonshire
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- jimbg
- Member Since: 23 Jun 2016
- Location: Devon
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Chopsy, Gruber are your cars software up to date?
I.e. 19B or 19C?
It is not just JLR with these problems, I am looking at my next car and on the Audi and Mercedes forums the problems are even worse!!
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- Chopsy
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- mordred1973
- Member Since: 08 Jan 2019
- Location: Northamptonshire
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jimbg wrote:
Chopsy, Gruber are your cars software up to date?
I.e. 19B or 19C?
It is not just JLR with these problems, I am looking at my next car and on the Audi and Mercedes forums the problems are even worse!!
Have to say every time I get into the car, I wonder what won't quite work how it should. I know for a fact that on first start up a) the rear view camera will only load as about 2/3 of screen not the full screen b) I won't be able to enter a destination into the NAV until about half a mile down the road c) if its that week of the month one of the front parking sensors will go off every time I am below 10mph, if it's not that week of the month they'll work correctly.
Other things it has randomly done (some never to be repeated others happen now and then) include the tailgate refusing to close both from the button and the remote until I have manually lifted the flap and pulled the tailgate down, front wipers that do one sweep almost every time one of the front doors are opened and closed with the engine running, a deployable towbar that sometimes refuses to lock in position. Other than that it's perfect.
I am seriously considering next time around going back to buying something from around 2012/13 as I can't live with always wondering what isn't going to work as intended this week and numerous visits to the dealer each year for them to shug their shoulders and say "no fault found".
It is interesting to read some of the car mag's reliability stats:
Most reliable
All Japanese 1-5
Kia - 6
Hyundai - 7
Volvo - 11
Ford - 14
Fiat - 19
Audi - 20
Mercedes - 24
Alfa Romeo - 25
Land Rover - 31 being the most unreliable manufacturer (with their least reliable models being the Full Fat RR, RR Velar and Discovery5, with less issued on RRS, DS and Evoke, and a comment of "at least when you end up sat on the hard shoulder you'll have a nice place to wait")
Making LR less reliable than the likes of Jeep and Renault
It is interesting with all of the tech in the new Volvo's and the fact they're a small largely independent manufacturer, they're scoring incredibly well (I made wrong choice as mine was between D5 and XC90)
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- Road Runner 2017
- Member Since: 14 Jan 2017
- Location: Scotland
- Posts: 2010
Have you tried disconnecting the battery overnight so that the car fully powers down, and hopefully any glitches will have cleared, by the time the battery has been reconnected the next day. Akin to a master reset. Its worth a try
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- Equilibrium
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- mordred1973
- Member Since: 08 Jan 2019
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Road Runner 2017 wrote:
Have you tried disconnecting the battery overnight so that the car fully powers down, and hopefully any glitches will have cleared, by the time the battery has been reconnected the next day. Akin to a master reset. Its worth a try
nope never been that brave.....how do you then lock the car if battery is disconnected?
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- Labbix
- Member Since: 05 Mar 2018
- Location: Tanzania
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The refusing tailgate I have had and still have with all my cars, German, British, Swedish
our long gone Toyota had a manual one...
The wiper thing I’ve noticed as well, wondering if it was because it was raining when engine was turned off, but the Disco cant be that smart or...
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- mordred1973
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- Labbix
- Member Since: 05 Mar 2018
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I loved my Volvo’s, but you must admit their navigation system is even worse than JLR if they wouldn’t have switched to only 4 cylinders, I might have taken the xc90, I loved its previous Yamaha V8, stunning engine, but I’m not sure of the off road abilities and don’t know if they still offer the rear seat entertainment. Which is a nice feature with 3 small kids.
And even Audi, and therefore the whole VW group has lots of tech issues. I remember very well driving through Germany when the whole system went blank, no radio, no nav, only speed and rpm was still shown. Even after waiting more than 10 minutes it stayed blank. Only next day it was there again. The system was completely replaced, even the screen behind the steering wheel, and still it happened like twice a year.
JLR is far from perfect, but at least for me, they almost always come with a solution, and yes I admit it can take a while, but still. Didn’t have same experience with VW group. And the Audi’s RSE is way worse than JLR as well. So, after all, it is what you are willing to accept and are wanting to drive. I definitely prefer the seating position above Q7 and XC90, off road abilities and most probably next year will buy the D5 again when moving to Dar Es Salaam. Shame the facelift will be for MY21, but I have learned not to buy a ‘new’ model by now -
- mordred1973
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oh the Volvo 4 cylinder engine is the whole reason I bought the D5, I loved my rattly old 5 cylinder 2.4 Diesel, although it was thirstier than the Td6 in the D5 is, but I didn't think a 4 cylider was appropriate in an expensive top end car.
The Volvo NAV took very strange routes to places, but was far easier to set destinations since you could "type" from the sterring wheel buttons, rather than have to stop and use the LR touch screen. The LR screen is hugely better quality and I think looks great. I love the functionality you can control through it too and having Android Auto to play music, which being 2012 the Volvo didn;t have (and I think is still a chargable option in 2019)
I love the loads of USB's all over the LR (again the Volvo doesn't even have them in the middle row let alone the back row)
I don't have RSE and intentionally avoided it, otherwise the kids would want to watch stuff 24/7. They have their tablets to watch on proper long trips lol
The most offroad my car goes is down a farm track a couple of times a year, so whilst its a nice feeling knowing you can go lots of places, in reality I don't need it.
The XC60 driving position was more comfortable than the D5, although Volvo allegedly produce the best car seats there are.
I love the engine (hence why the D5 won over the XC90), I hate the dealership experience of LR, they're appalling,
I love the styling, the toys (when they work) and the room.
I cannot ever imagine me buying another JLR product however
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- Labbix
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- Road Runner 2017
- Member Since: 14 Jan 2017
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mordred1973 wrote:
Road Runner 2017 wrote:
Have you tried disconnecting the battery overnight so that the car fully powers down, and hopefully any glitches will have cleared, by the time the battery has been reconnected the next day. Akin to a master reset. Its worth a try
nope never been that brave.....how do you then lock the car if battery is disconnected?
Car was parked overnight in the garage, so no need to lock it, but its always locked when in the garage.
Not sure if you can lock it manually by the key in the fob though, as i never tried that.
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