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- Rozzy1970
- Member Since: 12 Aug 2025
- Location: Warwickshire
- Posts: 1
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- Wolfpack
- Member Since: 25 May 2019
- Location: Norfolk, UK
- Posts: 406
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- Darras
- Member Since: 16 May 2020
- Location: Newcastle
- Posts: 812
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You’d be as well looking at this tbh and going into LR ownership with your eyes wide open.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/2089964327822434/
This is a post on the site, every hour someone is reporting catastrophic faults. Says it all.
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- ajac
- Member Since: 20 Jul 2025
- Location: Shakespeare's County
- Posts: 18
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Slightly off topic still but forums by their very nature are down beat when it comes to reliability issues. I would love to know what percentage of negatives sit against positive posts. Folk don’t tend to come here to say wow this has been fantastic to 5 years.
it was just the same on the Full Fat forum. My 405 was faultless for 4.5 years and i only changed it because it had exec seats and we needed the boot space. if i listened to the forum I would never have even looked at one.
Yes keep your eyes open but also look at things in context.
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- Mole HD
- Member Since: 18 Nov 2024
- Location: Orkney Islands
- Posts: 238
Wise words from ajac. There are a lot reliablility horror stories on the interweb, sure, same as there are for D3's and D4's with the glass crankshafts... but most folk I know personally who own D5's are reasonably happy with them. There are good ones and bad ones...I was lucky, I got one of the good ones (touches wood)
For context...avoid anything with a 2.0L Ingenium engine...they're well known for randomly exploding into a pile of bits...but most of all as Darras and Wolfpack rightly pointed out...go in with your eyes open, you're a D4 owner and not some Land Rover newbie...you should know the score by now
To drag this painfully back on topic... Bluetooth music on a '17 plate D5, buy a dongle from Amazon and plug it into the USB slot in the centre cubby. Saves you from plugging the phone in with a USB cable to use Android Auto or Apple CarPlay. Do a one off pairing it to your phone once you plug it in...play music. It automatically connects to Android Auto or Apple CarPlay every time you jump in the car.
There are hundreds of them to chose from... I have a couple of these, they've worked perfectly in the 6 months or so I've been using them. There are countless cheaper ones on Amazon or Ebay which probably work just as good
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0F44H9VL1?ref...asin_title
Phone apps...Android Auto or Apple CarPlay depending on which brand of phone you have. Both are supported by practically all of the Bluetooth dongles.
As for the removable towbar fitting, it might be as cheap buying a replacement motor/gearbox for the deployable and having it fitted...assuming that's what the issue was (it's usually the gearbox seizing up) and you still have the towhook itself.
https://www.powerfuluk.com/collections/dis...iscovery-5
There's someone selling a complete removable towbar kit on the for sale section of the forum at the moment...but not having seen what actual hardware fittings are on the deployable type (I have a removable on mine), I've no idea how much work would be involved in totally replacing it with a removable.
Even the plastic tow plate trim covers on the car are a different shape for the removable and deployable towbars respectively... so you'd additionally have to buy a new tow plate trim cover along with the hardware fittings.
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- Darras
- Member Since: 16 May 2020
- Location: Newcastle
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- Mole HD
- Member Since: 18 Nov 2024
- Location: Orkney Islands
- Posts: 238
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I'm not particularly adopting any stance per se...I don't really have an iron in that fire besides being personally comfortable with owning a D5. I certainly support your stance on the reliability issues...since they're an unavoidable truth
Conversely, as a long time used Land Rover Discovery owner from a D2 onward...I was perfectly aware that at some point during my ownership of the Bling Barge, I'd be needing to use my spannering skills...Used Land Rovers should all come with a disclaimer on the side of them, 'Spanners may be required'.
The hole (well, one of the several) that JLR have dug for themselves is by market hyping a Land Rover Discovery as a luxury SUV, trying to outdo BMW, Audi and Volvo, and changing the targeted customer demographic from the almost savvy mid range enthusiast to the higher end painfully unaware.
The final nail in the coffin was lumping an entire range of this particular model of 7 seat, 3 ton farm chariots with poorly engineered, underpowered and randomly exploding Ford Ingenium engines, further crippled by a ridiculously long and fatefully inadequate recommended service interval...once again to compete with the other European manufacturers and their more family budget friendly 2.0L powerplants fitted in their 5+2 seater SUV's.
It was always going to end in tears
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- ajac
- Member Since: 20 Jul 2025
- Location: Shakespeare's County
- Posts: 18
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Whilst I still stand by the need to look at things in context, I do agree that LR have something to answer for and it never cease to amaze me that a company as large as LR still produces sub standard products - all of which have been ‘extensively tested’. (Yeah, by the original owners!) and designed by folks with a questionable grasp of materials science and detailing.
That said, its also amazes me how many people still stick with the brand (myself included). An hour on this or any other LR forum will fill you with dread. I remember when I brought my 405…. Cracking suspension knuckles nearly killing people (literally and subject to yet another class action in the USA) and corroding sun roof drain holes writing cars off. oh and don’t forget using steel small bore pipes for high pressure ARC systems which rot the day they leave the factory.
Think about this stuff too much and none of us would even be here talking about our cars and yet here we are. Does make you smile.
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- Mole HD
- Member Since: 18 Nov 2024
- Location: Orkney Islands
- Posts: 238
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An American friend of mine explained it simply...
"Land Rovers, as tempting as spending your life with beer and hookers...We all know both these things are a really bad idea and are going to turn out expensive and soul destroying in the end."
Atque in perpetuum, frater. Ave atque vale
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