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- Braehead
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- Road Runner 2017
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I do share your concerns, and would have preferred a diesel as we do use the trailer alot, but decided against it. This is our first petrol one.
Touch wood all good so far. Silky smooth with plenty of pull
We did look at the FF and RRS but just as well getting a saloon she said as it will only seat 5 people, hence we opted for the D5 as the 2 extra seats which are used frequently are a godsend.
Saves taking 2 cars, so it was a no brainer and better value overall.
Am sure diesel of petrol whatever you end up getting you won't be disappointed. Excellent car and so comfortable. Head and shoulders above the D4.
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- Road Runner 2017
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- Equilibrium
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[quote="Braehead"]Road Runner 2017 wrote:
So it remains a fight between X5 M40i, Disco SDV6 and SQ7. Disco is the best of the utility options and the other two are probably the best of the sporty options.
Of all my test drives, my 24hr X5 and 48hr D5 drives were the closest together, just a few days apart, so the best comparison.
I felt the D5 edged out the BMW on luxury, refinement, ride, utility/practicality and (most surprising of all) in the consistency of handling. The X5 felt, space-wise, from a class below.
It was a X5 30d MSport with a large spec and that engine was noticeably noisier and more 'dieselly' than the D5. Now, I love the B58 40i engine (see my pic/car history!) and I have no doubt that it would transform the refinement of the X5 as it managed that trick even in a 4-series. Would the relative lack of torque be a problem in a big SUV though, not sure as I didn't get to drove one and the X5 lost on other factors to the D5. That engine is a big selling point of the X5 for me, all the same.
The X5 certainly has a more sporty vibe, cocooning driving environment and lower set all-around. The handling didn't gel with me though. It feels like BMW don't have the air-suspension as sorted as JLR do. The mix between softness and firmness was confusing at times, wallowy when not necessarily expected and then joltier unexpectedly too. It has adaptive switchable modes, of course, and with a longer period of driving perhaps I would have stumbled across a better combo of comfort/sport/individual. The D5 was softer, but more predictable and linear in it's responses. That was a D5 SE. I hope my order of a Dynamic HSE Lux hasn't
the handling 
Having spent 5 days in 2 RRSs as well, that would be where my money would go if I wanted the sportier end of the big SUV market. A Dynamic PHEV RRS is a marvellous way to get a petrol one....!
If I wanted real sportiness, I think the Cayenne would beat the X5 easily, noting that a Cayenne is significantly more expensive if you want decent equipment levels.
Long winded way of saying that you are right - D5 is the best utility option, but also beats the X5 and Q7 in interior ambience in my view. That's a matter of taste though.
I wanted petrol too at the outset, I've convinced myself that our other petrol car will be enough if a city ban arrives and that a D5 will always have a rural market to sell too in diesel form. Only time will prove me right or wrong on the latter.
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- Braehead
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Great replies thanks - seems we've all struggled with the same things. Nothing like a bit of confirmation bias to aid decision making
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- Road Runner 2017
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- klinkhammer
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- Braehead
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[quote="Equilibrium"]Braehead wrote:
Road Runner 2017 wrote:
So it remains a fight between X5 M40i, Disco SDV6 and SQ7. Disco is the best of the utility options and the other two are probably the best of the sporty options.
Of all my test drives, my 24hr X5 and 48hr D5 drives were the closest together, just a few days apart, so the best comparison.
I felt the D5 edged out the BMW on luxury, refinement, ride, utility/practicality and (most surprising of all) in the consistency of handling. The X5 felt, space-wise, from a class below.
It was a X5 30d MSport with a large spec and that engine was noticeably noisier and more 'dieselly' than the D5. Now, I love the B58 40i engine (see my pic/car history!) and I have no doubt that it would transform the refinement of the X5 as it managed that trick even in a 4-series. Would the relative lack of torque be a problem in a big SUV though, not sure as I didn't get to drove one and the X5 lost on other factors to the D5. That engine is a big selling point of the X5 for me, all the same.
The X5 certainly has a more sporty vibe, cocooning driving environment and lower set all-around. The handling didn't gel with me though. It feels like BMW don't have the air-suspension as sorted as JLR do. The mix between softness and firmness was confusing at times, wallowy when not necessarily expected and then joltier unexpectedly too. It has adaptive switchable modes, of course, and with a longer period of driving perhaps I would have stumbled across a better combo of comfort/sport/individual. The D5 was softer, but more predictable and linear in it's responses. That was a D5 SE. I hope my order of a Dynamic HSE Lux hasn't the handling
Having spent 5 days in 2 RRSs as well, that would be where my money would go if I wanted the sportier end of the big SUV market. A Dynamic PHEV RRS is a marvellous way to get a petrol one....!
If I wanted real sportiness, I think the Cayenne would beat the X5 easily, noting that a Cayenne is significantly more expensive if you want decent equipment levels.
Long winded way of saying that you are right - D5 is the best utility option, but also beats the X5 and Q7 in interior ambience in my view. That's a matter of taste though.
I wanted petrol too at the outset, I've convinced myself that our other petrol car will be enough if a city ban arrives and that a D5 will always have a rural market to sell too in diesel form. Only time will prove me right or wrong on the latter.
What seats were in the X5 and how did they compare to the D5? It would seam the X5 comes with a multitude of different seat option but my understanding is that the D5 HSE lux comes with just the one option. I find it amazing you have to pay extra for lumbar and bolster adjustment on the X5.
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