Discovery 2017

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  • eelpout
    Member Since: 01 Jun 2017
    Location: Don't call it "Cali"
    Posts: 304
    United States 

    Trevorb1 wrote:
    Looks like next Disco will come off EMA platform not MLA flex, no no ICE for next Disco.
    https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/land-rover/3...-and-focus


    That's a sobering article. Shocked

    I imagine the Disco Sport is already on a build track on EMA, it's the larger one they are flummoxed about due to the Defender.

    I'm a little confused then why they spilt into a Discovery group if they don't know it's future. ???
    16th Aug 2023 5:45 pm
  • Popsdosh
    Member Since: 06 Nov 2021
    Location: Cambs
    Posts: 138
    United Kingdom 

    Thats what I found strange when it was announced , As i could never see a business case that could justify such development cost with such a low sales demand vehicle . Lets face it as the Defender moves over platform the Discovery as we know it will die.
    17th Aug 2023 6:42 am
  • Russell
    Member Since: 26 Jun 2016
    Location: Lydd
    Posts: 1104
    United Kingdom 
    2017 Discovery Td6 First Edition Namib Orange

    I said two years ago that there would not be another Disco as we know it and certainly no electric Discovery soon Big Cry
    Having spoke to a dealer within the last two weeks they have also now confirmed that there will be no electric Discovery in he near future. The current model cannot take the electrification required still allowing for 7 seats and as such will not get electrified. If there is any plans for an electric Discovery he thought it would be several years away.
    Namib Orange 1st Edition with black roof and wheels.
    Privacy, tow bar, drive pack, surround camera, heated front & rear seats, auto dim door mirrors, side steps, remote Pro, RSE, arm rest fridge dash cam front and rear.
    17th Aug 2023 8:01 am
  • Ian_S
    Member Since: 18 May 2021
    Location: South
    Posts: 89
    United Kingdom 

    The more I read stuff like this the more I think the problem is that JLR do not want people to buy Discovery at the expense of Range Rovers or Defenders.

    Now I have mine, and having had a couple of new Range Rovers as loan cars this year, the Disco seems like an absolute bargain. Same switch gear, same engines, same infotainment apart from the haptic feedback which is not as intuitive as you'd think, excellent interior quality, quiet, frugal,

    The refinement of the current D300 base is excellent, and in Metropolitan spec you have most of the toys you get in the RR. Weirdly the IDD in the Disco has many more options than you get in the full RR which makes no sense.

    The Disco tailgate is way more practical than the Defender's barn door, and although I know people bemoan the lack of true split tailgate on the D5, the bigger one provides more cover (from sun or rain) and the internal flap is great for an impromptu picnic with a view. It's also 100x more useful if you have a tow bar mounted bike rack or storage box.

    The 8 seat Defender 130 is frankly a nonsense in the back. Unless you have six kids and no luggage to cart about all the time, the sheer length (no clearsight rear view either!!) and the massively compromised loadspace make it far less usable than the D5.

    I really like the new Defender (in 90/110 form) and the interior is great, I also like the new RR, in PHEV form it's ultra quiet, but I'm not sure the RR is worth £50k more than a Metropolitan in decent spec, and if you need/want to use more than 5 seats the Defender is lacking.

    JLR choose to prioritise Defender over D5, and I think it's because in the facelifted version, they've made it too good, and don't want people to cotton on. I wish someone like Harry's Garage would do a comparison with the D5 Metro and a RR and Defender. I think they'd be genuinely surprised.
    17th Aug 2023 1:56 pm
  • WmDisco
    Member Since: 27 Dec 2022
    Location: Staffordshire
    Posts: 30
    United Kingdom 
    2018 Discovery TDV6 SE Silicon Silver

    For some reason its not popular to like the Disco 5. I still maintain that the Defender interior is not suited to touring as its got no places to carry paperwork, tissues, sweets, maps, breathalyser, vehicle documentation etc. Its all out in the open. D5 beats it hands down.
    I have previously mentioned the Survey I got form Landrover, after getting my car in March. One question asked (roughly) - what would you have bought if you could not get a Discovery? I would have to say I would struggle with that choice. RR is too expensive. Velar is too car like and does not appeal. Defender - poor interior and costed for nostalgia (especially the 75th edition 90).
    Looks like I may be hanging onto this D5 for some time. Electricifcation also doesn't suit 2000 mile holiday trips unless re-charging is guaranteed t be readily available and as easy as filling withjDiesel.
    17th Aug 2023 4:24 pm
  • eelpout
    Member Since: 01 Jun 2017
    Location: Don't call it "Cali"
    Posts: 304
    United States 

    Quote:
    For some reason its not popular to like the Disco 5.

    "How could anyone consider the D5 with that rear end!" - average Defender buyer. And that's where they stop looking at it at all. Neutral

    If the RRS had the drop down platform instead of that stupid flip up bench, which cuts off space, I'd consider it as an alternative if the Disco were to disappear.

    I have a reservation for a Rivian R1s and my dealer says they are losing some market to them locally (Silicon Valley). I imagine at least a couple of those buyers would be cross shopping Discoverys.
    17th Aug 2023 5:38 pm
  • 747_JK
    Member Since: 26 Jun 2018
    Location: England
    Posts: 417
    United Kingdom 
    2022 Discovery SDV6 HSE Lux Santorini Black

    Makes me all the happier I got a MY23.5 delivered in June, which should give me plenty of time to think about replacement options in 2027, by which time we should have firm answers. And if no Disco 6 - agree unlikely - then plenty of other alternatives from other marques which take my fancy, I'd hope.

    As OP have said, the more I drive this new car, the more I realise what a phenomenal long-distance cruising machine it is. It's a five-star car. I even love the styling. And it's just as good driving six miles to the office every morning too, on days when I'm not doing 600.
    MY23.5 D5 3.0 MHEV Metropolitan Edition – Santorini Black – Ebony Windsor Leather – 21” Style 5025 gloss black wheels – 21” full size spare tyre – Black roof rails – Black side mouldings - Williams Ceramic Coat. [Gone: D5 HSE @ 50,795miles: (now LH68 BYW)]
    18th Aug 2023 9:59 pm
  • eelpout
    Member Since: 01 Jun 2017
    Location: Don't call it "Cali"
    Posts: 304
    United States 

    now that Lucid will be opening reservations for their Gravity EV this week (in the US only I assume), I'm tempted to put in an order for one on Nov 7th.

    The one big question for me is how well their AWD and air suspension systems will work.

    Getting tired of the Disco sitting in limbo and not changing or really improving year after year. Sad
    5th Nov 2024 9:25 pm
  • DieselRanger
    Member Since: 12 Oct 2017
    Location: God's Country, Colorado
    Posts: 770
    United States 
    2017 Discovery Td6 HSE Silicon Silver

    For my money, I hope the Disco goes the direction Scout Motors is heading with their Traveler, with up to 500 total miles of range planned with a small range extender. They haven't sized the generator engine yet but should be quite small as they're aiming to maintain a frunk.

    https://www.motor1.com/news/738662/scout-h...er-option/

    The RAM Trucks Ramcharger will come with a full sized 3.6L petrol inline hybrid setup, so will actually be able to power the electric drivetrain from the power generated by the engine - this is practically a diesel electric locomotive, only it will also have a plug-in battery.

    https://www.ramtrucks.com/electric/ram-1500-ramcharger.html
    6th Nov 2024 4:42 am
  • DieselRanger
    Member Since: 12 Oct 2017
    Location: God's Country, Colorado
    Posts: 770
    United States 
    2017 Discovery Td6 HSE Silicon Silver

    eelpout wrote:
    now that Lucid will be opening reservations for their Gravity EV this week (in the US only I assume), I'm tempted to put in an order for one on Nov 7th.

    The one big question for me is how well their AWD and air suspension systems will work.

    Getting tired of the Disco sitting in limbo and not changing or really improving year after year. Sad


    Emphasis in JLR has been put on the Range Rover line. They apparently have a nearly 100,000 order backlog for the all-electric full-fat Rangie. They've always been a trickle-down tech brand.
    6th Nov 2024 4:44 am
  • eelpout
    Member Since: 01 Jun 2017
    Location: Don't call it "Cali"
    Posts: 304
    United States 

    just an FYI because I think in the future, if Lucid survives, there might be some cross shopping here.

    the Lucid Gravity can now be configured in the US. the GT model they are offering initially gets pricey really fast. one can get from base $95K to $120K USD without a sweat. Wink

    https://lucidmotors.com/configure/gravity
    8th Nov 2024 12:08 am
  • DieselRanger
    Member Since: 12 Oct 2017
    Location: God's Country, Colorado
    Posts: 770
    United States 
    2017 Discovery Td6 HSE Silicon Silver

    My wife might cross shop that with a Volvo, but I would *never* cross shop that with something I take off road.

    The Scout Traveler - maybe.
    8th Nov 2024 1:03 am
  • eelpout
    Member Since: 01 Jun 2017
    Location: Don't call it "Cali"
    Posts: 304
    United States 

    DieselRanger wrote:
    They apparently have a nearly 100,000 order backlog for the all-electric full-fat Rangie. They've always been a trickle-down tech brand.


    according to my dealer, there really isn't a "master list" at JLR except for signing up for the RR EV interest email. but the individual dealers are keeping their own lists for those who inquired with them for when the ordering actually starts.

    Have to admit, the Lucid Gravity coming in at $120K US for the configuration I'm interested in gives me a lot of pause. the rumor is that even if you "configure" one now and give them $1K USD, it'll still be a year before they actually build them and ship. current Lucid owners will be queued up first.
    8th Nov 2024 9:09 pm
  • DieselRanger
    Member Since: 12 Oct 2017
    Location: God's Country, Colorado
    Posts: 770
    United States 
    2017 Discovery Td6 HSE Silicon Silver

    Right, the dealer sales rates and customer ratings define who gets allocations first. The dealers who report more customer orders get bumped up a little.

    This is how my dealer explained it to me.
    10th Nov 2024 8:36 pm
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