Discovery 2017

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  • JonM
    Member Since: 30 Jun 2016
    Location: North Yorkshire
    Posts: 598
    United Kingdom 
    2022 Discovery SDV6 HSE Carpathian Grey

    Gear shift - pointless musing....

    Whist cruising effortlessly down the motorway in my new D300 this morning, I started thinking about the change back from a rotary knob gear shift (which I have been using for 10 years in my D4 and previous D5) to a lever shift.

    Why are shift levers designed such that you pull them backwards to go forwards and push them forwards to make the car go backwards? Wouldn't it be logical to move the lever in the direction you want the car to travel?

    MY2022 D5 HSE D300 - with extra nice bits added
    MY2019 D5 HSE 3.0 SDV6 - sold to a dealer for a crazy price!
  • Darras
    Member Since: 16 May 2020
    Location: Newcastle
    Posts: 764
    United Kingdom 

    Yes.
  • B50int
    Member Since: 02 Sep 2018
    Location: Yorkshire
    Posts: 158
    United Kingdom 

    This could get deep…

    https://www.theguardian.com/games/2020/feb...e-controls

    Applying similar logic; are we part of the vehicle or merely driving it? If we are just driving then perhaps there should be an invert option! If we are part of the vehicle then the other end of that same lever (the immersed bit of the mechanism) is moving in the direction the car moves….

    I must be old. To me it’s the right way even though it doesn’t seem to make logical sense. Must be related to that 1980s flight sim I once played…

    MY23 (2022) D300 SE R-Dynamic Eiger Grey, Tow Pack, Matrix Headlights and a few other options
    Gone: 2018 HSE 3.0 tdv6 Santorini black
  • al cope
    Member Since: 02 Jan 2019
    Location: Oldbury
    Posts: 372
    United Kingdom 
    2018 Discovery Sd4 (240) HSE Corris Grey

    Doesn’t it come from the action of a manual car, you push it forwards to move, but then pull it backwards to change up.

    One theory anyway Whistle

    Al

    Now gone - D5 HSE 2Ltr in Corris with black roof, black & dynamic packs & 22" black alloys, a bit of a change after 2 D3's and 2 D4's Smile
  • discus
    Member Since: 22 Aug 2019
    Location: North
    Posts: 160
    United Kingdom 

    Think losing the rotary selector is disappointing, much prefer it to stick/lever...
  • Darras
    Member Since: 16 May 2020
    Location: Newcastle
    Posts: 764
    United Kingdom 

    Yep.
  • MAPMA
    Member Since: 22 Jun 2021
    Location: Manchester
    Posts: 45
    England 

    I think the gear lever on automatic vehicles should be on the steering column the "old American way" (or like the C4 picasso). It frees up a lot of space on the centre console that is needlessly occupied by a lever or rotary knob that you only touch twice when you drive.
  • FastLaneJB
    Member Since: 29 May 2021
    Location: Bedfordshire
    Posts: 189
    United Kingdom 

    I agree with this and it's how Merc does it. My C63S was like this and it just seems to make a lot of sense to me. You still have that centre console down the middle but you can put other stuff on it or make more storage.
  • Equilibrium
    Member Since: 26 Feb 2019
    Location: Bristol
    Posts: 754
    United Kingdom 
    2019 Discovery SDV6 HSE Lux Carpathian Grey

    Seems a very backwards step. The industry is now moving towards rotary and switch changes and LR, having led the way, are reverting to the old fashioned lever.

    Drives: 2020 MY20 HSE Luxury SDV6 in Eiger Grey/Glacier
    Departed: 2019 MY20 HSE Luxury SDV6 in Carpathian Grey/Glacier, 440i, 320d, Toyotas, Mondeo, Citroen BX amongst others
  • Darras
    Member Since: 16 May 2020
    Location: Newcastle
    Posts: 764
    United Kingdom 

    I have tried a new shift stick on a Disco Sport. It was horrible, a very retrograde step. Personally, I wouldn’t buy a car with one. The rotary knob is so easy to use and unobtrusive. No doubt they will change it again in time.
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