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  • Brooksie69
    Member Since: 29 Oct 2023
    Location: Wigan
    Posts: 10
    United Kingdom 
    2022 Discovery Td6 SE Corris Grey

    Activate Hotspot on cars that have esim

    I have found a way to activate the hotspot on cars with built in esim's.

    If you have a iid tool G3 then in the Car Config file look for: MultiCAN-814 Pivi Hotspot, change this from not fitted to fitted with the iid.

    MultiCAN-814 PIVI WiFi Hotspot
    Internal WiFi Hotspot fitted

    After the setting has been updated to the car and the ignition is back on hold the Pivi power button down until Pivi screen goes blank.
    The Pivi will reboot and after it has rebooted do the reset of the Pivi again, hold button down until screen goes blank.
    When the Pivi comes back on exit the car and lock it for 10 mins or so. Return and unlock the car.
    On the Pivi screen under settings and connection you should have a hotspot setting, turn it on and use the Password the Pivi generates to access the cars hotspot.

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    4th Jan 2024 11:44 pm
  • 747_JK
    Member Since: 26 Jun 2018
    Location: England
    Posts: 413
    United Kingdom 
    2022 Discovery SDV6 HSE Lux Santorini Black

    I've seen a company offering this unlock for £100... but I'm intrigued as to what data allowance it would give you!?
    MY23.5 D5 3.0 MHEV Metropolitan Edition – Santorini Black – Ebony Windsor Leather – 21” Style 5025 gloss black wheels – 21” full size spare tyre – Black roof rails – Black side mouldings - Williams Ceramic Coat. [Gone: D5 HSE @ 50,795miles: (now LH68 BYW)]
    5th Jan 2024 4:20 pm
  • Brooksie69
    Member Since: 29 Oct 2023
    Location: Wigan
    Posts: 10
    United Kingdom 
    2022 Discovery Td6 SE Corris Grey

    I would think having software over the air updates LR would have it set to unlimited.
    The incontrol pro has tracking so again I would think it would be unlimited.
    I'm sure LR would contact owners if they thought there was an issue with data use.
    Mine is on O2 which isn't the best round where I live so only use the hotspot when travelling.
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    5th Jan 2024 4:30 pm
  • discus
    Member Since: 22 Aug 2019
    Location: North
    Posts: 160
    United Kingdom 

    Interesting one this. This actually incurs an ongoing cost for Land Rover to provide data bandwidth that people are not paying for, and will no doubt have a material effect on their contract with mobile data providers if enough owners enable it without paying the subscription. Seems to me to be morally quite different from enabling a feature like cruise control that is built into the vehicle anyway.
    5th Jan 2024 5:11 pm
  • Brooksie69
    Member Since: 29 Oct 2023
    Location: Wigan
    Posts: 10
    United Kingdom 
    2022 Discovery Td6 SE Corris Grey

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    5th Jan 2024 5:48 pm
  • JonM
    Member Since: 30 Jun 2016
    Location: North Yorkshire
    Posts: 599
    United Kingdom 
    2022 Discovery SDV6 HSE Carpathian Grey

    As I understand it, for security reasons to try to prevent hackers taking control of vehicles, all data to and from the car goes through JLR servers (equivalent of using a VPN). This would mean JLR still controlling your data allowance if you aren't paying the subscription for the hotspot and increased data allowance.
    MY2022 D5 HSE D300 - with extra nice bits added
    MY2019 D5 HSE 3.0 SDV6 - sold to a dealer for a crazy price!
    6th Jan 2024 10:31 am
  • Madrilleno
    Member Since: 11 Jul 2016
    Location: Nottingham
    Posts: 28
    England 
    2022 Discovery Si6 HSE Santorini Black

    Unless you have more info, I doubt that all data goes through LR servers. I think that they will use a split VPN tunnel so that only data releveant to LR is routed via their servers (or at least I hope they do!), Limitations on data usage are more likely to be applied by the connction provider as part of the provisioning contract. When buying large numbers of mobile data connections, that is part of the contract you take out with the supplier.

    Here is some info about data limits:

    Vehicles equipped with the PiVi Pro infotainment system and Telematics control unit have a built-in eSIM internal electronic SIM card, which is used to update some vehicle software over the air. This sim card can also be unlocked to use it as a hotspot and get WiFi in the vehicle. In this case, the system uses an external antenna for the best connection.
    Depending on the local market, you will receive 20 GB of data every month for 1-3 years. After using 20 GB of data for a month, the data transfer rate in the vehicle may slow down until the end of the month.
    Mobile communications cannot be guaranteed in all locations. All vehicle functions should only be used by drivers when it is safe forthem to do so.


    From here https://www.lr-chip.co.uk/land-rover-disco...-two-days/

    If using your own physical SIM, the data limits are applied by the company you purchase from, not LR.
    14th Aug 2024 2:55 pm
  • JonM
    Member Since: 30 Jun 2016
    Location: North Yorkshire
    Posts: 599
    United Kingdom 
    2022 Discovery SDV6 HSE Carpathian Grey

    You can't use your own SIM in the Pivi Pro vehicles. Only the built in SIMS are supported, they're not removable.

    There was a very detailed post on one of the facebook groups from Damien Dimming (I think that was his name) who worked for LR in the development of the Pivi Pro system. He said that as a security precaution, none of the vehicles systems could connect directly to the internet. All traffic was routed through LR's systems to effectively ensure that the connection was firewalled / filtered to protect the vehicle from cyber attack.

    Whether WIFI to a non-vehicle device is allowed to pass through unfiltered, I don't know.
    MY2022 D5 HSE D300 - with extra nice bits added
    MY2019 D5 HSE 3.0 SDV6 - sold to a dealer for a crazy price!
    14th Aug 2024 3:08 pm
  • Madrilleno
    Member Since: 11 Jul 2016
    Location: Nottingham
    Posts: 28
    England 
    2022 Discovery Si6 HSE Santorini Black

    Fair enough, so why the SIM slot?
    14th Aug 2024 3:14 pm
  • JonM
    Member Since: 30 Jun 2016
    Location: North Yorkshire
    Posts: 599
    United Kingdom 
    2022 Discovery SDV6 HSE Carpathian Grey

    There isn't a SIM slot on the Pivi Pro vehicles. There was on the Pre-MY21 InControl system.
    MY2022 D5 HSE D300 - with extra nice bits added
    MY2019 D5 HSE 3.0 SDV6 - sold to a dealer for a crazy price!
    14th Aug 2024 3:16 pm
  • Madrilleno
    Member Since: 11 Jul 2016
    Location: Nottingham
    Posts: 28
    England 
    2022 Discovery Si6 HSE Santorini Black

    A little more info. There may actually be two eSIMs - one for telematics and the second for other data.

    https://www.jdpower.com/cars/shopping-guid...r-pivi-pro
    15th Aug 2024 6:28 am
  • Madrilleno
    Member Since: 11 Jul 2016
    Location: Nottingham
    Posts: 28
    England 
    2022 Discovery Si6 HSE Santorini Black

    Damian Dinning's stuff on FB is very useful thanks.
    15th Aug 2024 8:16 am
  • LesGAllen
    Member Since: 09 Apr 2020
    Location: Chard, Somerset
    Posts: 8
    United Kingdom 
    2019 Discovery Si4 SE Indus Silver

    WIFI Hot Spot

    Brilliant, worked a great. Many thanks.
    24th Sep 2024 2:30 pm
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