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- lemme
- Member Since: 02 Jun 2017
- Location: Epsom
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Hybrid Disco????
now that Land Rover have announced Hybrid Power plants for the RR & RRS, i wonder how long before this arrives in the Disco...
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- J77
- Member Since: 07 Jun 2016
- Location: Fife
- Posts: 1008
It will definitely be here before 2020, that’s LRs own deadline for all models to have some form of hybrid option.
18MY Velar R-Dynamic SE D240 Fuji White
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- lemme
- Member Since: 02 Jun 2017
- Location: Epsom
- Posts: 38
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that's what i was worried about... i've just placed an order for a HSE Lux (MY18) and waiting for a build slot from LR. SWMBO is now worried about the diesel engine (2.0) i have spec'd... she's clearly been reading too much re: anti-diesel. Does she though, have a point?... as the scare tactics increase, will the residual value decrease?
i've priced up difference between petrol and diesel... and based on the published MPG figures works out around £140p/m difference, not a lot in grand scheme of things.
Once i have the figures back from LR re: the 3.0 Petrol option... i should be able to work out the impact of 4 years (and longer if I ultimately keep the car)
ps. not interested in the 2.0 petrol... you don't appear to be able to spec the locking diff and/or the tow assist. Now whilst i'm not intending to go full off-roading, or tow caravans... it's nice to know i can.
pps. all of the above disappears if the hybrid is an option for the Disco
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- J77
- Member Since: 07 Jun 2016
- Location: Fife
- Posts: 1008
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I wouldn’t imagine it would be too far away, but they have got the SVX up next so may preview along side that.
18MY Velar R-Dynamic SE D240 Fuji White
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- oop north
- Member Since: 28 Sep 2016
- Location: Preston-ish
- Posts: 26
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Also worth noting that the hybrid option in RRSport seems to mean you cannot tow, have a full size spare or the third row of seats. Don't know what of those would be lost on the D5 - I'd be surprised if all of them but also surprised if none, depending on where they shove the batteries...
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- J77
- Member Since: 07 Jun 2016
- Location: Fife
- Posts: 1008
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You can tow with it, just can’t have electrically deployable towbar, that’s all the brochure says. Also advanced tow assist available as £180 option.
18MY Velar R-Dynamic SE D240 Fuji White
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- ken
- Member Since: 27 Apr 2016
- Location: UK-Germany
- Posts: 93
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FFRR (L405) PHEV no DTB Fixed available however compromised to 2.5t (good job I have the
Bowler)
That said no RTB for the SVX either
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- fisherman
- Member Since: 11 Oct 2016
- Location: Hornchurch
- Posts: 94
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oop north wrote:
Also worth noting that the hybrid option in RRSport seems to mean you cannot tow, have a full size spare or the third row of seats. Don't know what of those would be lost on the D5 - I'd be surprised if all of them but also surprised if none, depending on where they shove the batteries...
Isn't there space in the boot floor. I think the D5 would have been designed some time ago to be a PHEV and the space used may preclude the use of a a DTB on the RRS but not a detachable one. There is a limit of 2500kg on the RRS too due to the weight of the batteries and of course a reduced noseweight from 350kg to 195kg or 150kg, I think, due also to the battery weight. I can't see the seats being removed as that's a huge selling point so I would guess at the reduced section spare.
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- DieselRanger
- Member Since: 12 Oct 2017
- Location: God's Country, Colorado
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I think that space is where the 3rd row folds if you have it. I didn't order the 3rd row, so I have a nice, big storage area there. So it might be reasonable to expect the loss of the 3rd row, some storage, and the full-sized spare in the Disco.
A hybrid likely also means a smaller engine and smaller fuel tank. If it's a PHEV then IMO one could be left with an underpowered engine trying to motivate a heavy SUV when the charge runs down, not a pleasant thought in an offroad situation deep in the wilderness. The battery compartment will also require heavy armoring and sealing against water to allow the same level of off-roading as a pure ICE Disco, further increasing the weight and potentially affecting balance and COG.
Perhaps a good idea for those who want a high street/mall crawler/school run/soccer (erm, "football") mom vehicle, but those who want to use them as God and Maurice Wilks intended, pure ICE is the way to go for a while.
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- ken
- Member Since: 27 Apr 2016
- Location: UK-Germany
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That's not how a PHEV works
Not once have I been in a situation were the PHEV has no charge left and anyhow JLR uses a 300hp 2.0 lump which is available anyhow
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- oop north
- Member Since: 28 Sep 2016
- Location: Preston-ish
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I guess we’ll have to see what the compromises are for a phev. Not sure I would want one (prefer full electric but goodness knows when that will happen on a LR) but I want 7 seats, I want a full size spare (don’t intend driving 400 miles home from France on a Saturday on a space saver again) and want to be able to tow. Tesla X is the only full leccy alternative but every time I see the price my first thought is “I could have a Range Rover for that”
I think the leccy range of 20-odd miles would often be enough - yesterday I did 65 miles without going further than 8 miles from home, and I have a home charger already (bmw i3) and today will be 30 miles with no one trip more than 7 miles from home
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- DiscoStu
- Member Since: 28 Apr 2016
- Location: Greater London
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Quote:
I want 7 seats, I want a full size spare (don’t intend driving 400 miles home from France on a Saturday on a space saver again) and want to be able to tow.
You want a full electric with that lot?? 
I think you'll be waiting decades, not months - with any manufacturer.
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- oop north
- Member Since: 28 Sep 2016
- Location: Preston-ish
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That is already all achievable with a Tesla model X (albeit for a hideous amount of money), so I don't know why I would have to wait decades for it
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- ken
- Member Since: 27 Apr 2016
- Location: UK-Germany
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I believe the X is limited to circa 2t and feed back is range is dramatically reduced
FSS have a massive CO2 impact so be thankful you have a Space saver not an inflation kit
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- DiscoStu
- Member Since: 28 Apr 2016
- Location: Greater London
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It can carry 7 people 400 miles while towing a trailer? I’m impressed.
If only Tesla could make a profit then all the other manufacturers would be doing them too.
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MY19 Carpathian Grey HSE Lux SDV6 - gone, MY18 Carpathian Grey HSE Lux TDV6 - gone
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