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  • Darras
    Member Since: 16 May 2020
    Location: Newcastle
    Posts: 764
    United Kingdom 

    Buying LR & Warranty - after manufacturers ends

    Interesting note as one or two on here, myself included, intend to keep the Disco past 3 years. It will be a bit of a novelty as I don’t normally do that, but in this pandemic and economic climate, it just seems like madness to throw money away on a new car, particularly as most of us aren’t doing any great mileage - I’ve done less than 20k since new and LR aren’t giving away any big discounts - trying to think, but I got about 20% off list a couple of years back, now you’re luck to get half of that and yet we are in a recession! The car industry is obviously oblivious to covid or they are trying to make up for what they lost in the last year from us punters.

    Anyway, Warranty Direct used to be the after 3 year warranty weapon of choice, but now they aren’t selling to the public. The firm was taken over and reading between the lines, some reorganisation is taking place including a review of warranty products. It may be back, but at the moment it isn’t an option.

    There are other firms on the go, which have had mixed reviews. Warranty Wise, Motor Easy etc. Then there is the LR branded one, which isn’t run by LR, but I know they get good commission. I believe nearly 50% of the not very cheap premium finds it’s way into LRs and/or the dealerships pocket.

    There is also the no warranty option, fine if you can take a hit, which most of us on here can, but if it got to £10k plus say for a new engine, it would be a bit of an ouch moment. I suppose you could flog it for spares or to a breaker and get a bit of dosh back. Either way it could be expensive, but then that’s disaster planning for you.

    So any recommendations or views please?
    9th Feb 2021 9:45 am
  • IndusD4
    Member Since: 28 Jan 2018
    Location: Sydney
    Posts: 698
    Australia 

    There are some posts on here regarding Ford having revised the V6 diesel before putting it in the F150 I believe. JLR would have benefited from this engine update as well, the question is when this filtered through to the Disco. Ford started using these engines in 2018, If only we knew from which engine number this update was.
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    9th Feb 2021 10:24 am
  • Windy Miller
    Member Since: 08 Dec 2020
    Location: UK
    Posts: 181
    United Kingdom 

    Quote a big thread on RRS regarding this subject discussing info/options, if you've not already seen it...

    https://www.rrsport.co.uk/forum/topic57451.html

    HTH

    Smile
    2021 D300 R-Dynamic HSE - Carpathian Grey.
    9th Feb 2021 10:45 am
  • al cope
    Member Since: 02 Jan 2019
    Location: Oldbury
    Posts: 372
    United Kingdom 
    2018 Discovery Sd4 (240) HSE Corris Grey

    And I started the same type of thread on the D4 forum. There isn’t much choice with the LR extended warranty the most expensive but just as likely to NOT cover the bits you need to be covered..

    My LR warranty expires in May so will make up my mind by then.

    Al
    Now gone - D5 HSE 2Ltr in Corris with black roof, black & dynamic packs & 22" black alloys, a bit of a change after 2 D3's and 2 D4's Smile
    9th Feb 2021 12:12 pm
  • Darras
    Member Since: 16 May 2020
    Location: Newcastle
    Posts: 764
    United Kingdom 

    No, I’ve not looked at the RRS forum tbh. I had read the D3/4 forum.

    Al, am just a bit behind you re the need or otherwise of the warranty.

    Part of me says take a chance and if it goes t*ts up take it on the chin. Meantime, keep the LR servicing at a main dealership up and hope for good will, but expect nothing.

    Or if WD haven’t got back in the market, take the LR one and chalk the exorbitant cost down to life’s rich tapestry.

    Despite a new main house build in the pre advanced stage, I’ve got another bit of land for a holiday home in the Outer Hebrides. I’d like to crack on with that meantime, so I could do without large chunks of money being spent on car repairs.

    Decisions, decisions.
    9th Feb 2021 1:41 pm
  • Jayd5
    Member Since: 30 Jan 2021
    Location: Bristol
    Posts: 36
    United Kingdom 
    2018 Discovery TDV6 HSE Santorini Black

    Interesting discussion, in the UK we have the Consumer Rights act 2015. This states all products must be of satisfactory quality, fit for purpose and as described. If a fault develops after the first six months the burden is on you to prove that the product was faulty at the time you took ownership.

    As some of the more common issues we see with these cars are well known and can be attributed to poor design or as in the case of the windscreen leaking, manufacturing defect. You have the right to request a repair even if outside the warranty period if you can prove the defect was there from manufacture. But key to this is your rights are against the retailer not the manufacturer, so if the dealer says sorry Landrover won’t approve the repair, say ok I expected that, when are you going to repair it?
    The next step would be the small claims court (up to a limit of £10000).
    9th Feb 2021 3:09 pm
  • Darras
    Member Since: 16 May 2020
    Location: Newcastle
    Posts: 764
    United Kingdom 

    True and from memory, the dealership has to prove the fault wasn’t there at the time of purchase rather than the consumer prove it was.

    That said, I can see dealerships taking a court case to the wire. I already had that with a rejection. It took me 3 months to sort and a lot of grief.

    I can only imagine married couples having had a less acrimonious divorces than me trying to get a car rejected - yes, that bad! Their Solicitor was a total Censored but thankfully didn’t know the law as well as he thought he did.

    Oh, scary muse of the day is that LLB students at Uni only have to get 40% to pass their degree. Medical Students only 50%. Oh, and to get into Medicine over 60% of the intake don’t have the minimum grades. Wink I could go on and have a bit of a rant and really shake your faith in a few professions, however.....
    9th Feb 2021 3:41 pm
  • Windy Miller
    Member Since: 08 Dec 2020
    Location: UK
    Posts: 181
    United Kingdom 

    I've mentioned on here briefly before, but at the end of 2018 I sold my Sept 2015 RRS when it came to 3yrs old. This was purely because LR wouldn't commit to covering oil dilution or crank failure' in their extended warranty that I said I was prepared to buy. The dealer was fine with it, but they said that JLR HO had flat out refused so if they ever needed to claim they wouldn't be reimbursed, and with that in mind they would be unable to offer anything in sorting. So I walked away from the brand.

    All I wanted at the time was written confirmation that these two issues would be covered should my car (which was only ever serviced by a main dealer) develop the problem.

    IMO, it's risky with these engines and a 50:50 risk at best. These' no small/cheapish problem, the issues are costly if not covered.

    Personally I'd use 'man maths' and tell myself the money I'd lose on a new car is only the money I'd spend on fixing a broken car. Win win! Laughing
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    9th Feb 2021 4:22 pm
  • Darras
    Member Since: 16 May 2020
    Location: Newcastle
    Posts: 764
    United Kingdom 

    Laughing Thumbs Up

    Fair point and as for the man maths, I think it’s official title is “delusional maths”. Rolling with laughter
    9th Feb 2021 4:53 pm
  • Equilibrium
    Member Since: 26 Feb 2019
    Location: Bristol
    Posts: 754
    United Kingdom 
    2019 Discovery SDV6 HSE Lux Carpathian Grey

    Windy Miller, you didn’t have another brand (Mini?) PHEV in the interim did you? You’re warranty story rings a bell from the RRS forums.
    Drives: 2020 MY20 HSE Luxury SDV6 in Eiger Grey/Glacier
    Departed: 2019 MY20 HSE Luxury SDV6 in Carpathian Grey/Glacier, 440i, 320d, Toyotas, Mondeo, Citroen BX amongst others
    9th Feb 2021 6:31 pm
  • harrythespider
    Member Since: 19 Jul 2018
    Location: cumbria
    Posts: 417
    United Kingdom 
    2017 Discovery TDV6 HSE Aintree Green

    I spent ages comparing and rejecting various warranties, came down to 2 in the end, warrantywise and Landover's own I eventually went with LR as it had no £ limit on repairs as warrantywise did. I also concluded that IF a claim was made LR would be straightforwrd whereas WW required pre approval and proof.
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    9th Feb 2021 8:46 pm
  • Windy Miller
    Member Since: 08 Dec 2020
    Location: UK
    Posts: 181
    United Kingdom 

    Equilibrium wrote:
    Windy Miller, you didn’t have another brand (Mini?) PHEV in the interim did you? You’re warranty story rings a bell from the RRS forums.

    If my memory serves me correctly that person (Tim in Scotland?) got out of his around 6 months before I did. He had a similar experience with his dealer which prompted me to ask the question to mine before I made the plunge of getting a warranty that seemingly wouldn't cover my main reason for buying.

    If it were not for the complete engine change by JLR in the new Disco I wouldn't be returning to the brand TBH.

    Smile
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    10th Feb 2021 8:14 am
  • Darras
    Member Since: 16 May 2020
    Location: Newcastle
    Posts: 764
    United Kingdom 

    There another warranty company www.myautomotionwarranty.co.uk

    They are £420 for the year, no excess, up to value of vehicle. AA cover included. Looked at the T&Cs, but not in detail.
    10th Feb 2021 9:16 am
  • Equilibrium
    Member Since: 26 Feb 2019
    Location: Bristol
    Posts: 754
    United Kingdom 
    2019 Discovery SDV6 HSE Lux Carpathian Grey

    Thanks Windy Miller! Tim in Scotland - that was the guy. Remember his posts well, it was around the time that I was considering a RRS.
    Drives: 2020 MY20 HSE Luxury SDV6 in Eiger Grey/Glacier
    Departed: 2019 MY20 HSE Luxury SDV6 in Carpathian Grey/Glacier, 440i, 320d, Toyotas, Mondeo, Citroen BX amongst others
    10th Feb 2021 9:28 pm
  • al cope
    Member Since: 02 Jan 2019
    Location: Oldbury
    Posts: 372
    United Kingdom 
    2018 Discovery Sd4 (240) HSE Corris Grey

    Is that myauto product an insurance backed scheme or discretionary like motoreasy

    Al
    Now gone - D5 HSE 2Ltr in Corris with black roof, black & dynamic packs & 22" black alloys, a bit of a change after 2 D3's and 2 D4's Smile
    11th Feb 2021 9:10 am
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