Discovery 2017

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  • DG
    Member Since: 27 Apr 2016
    Location: Surrey
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    2018 Discovery Sd4 (240) HSE Fuji White

    I will await the first report of oil devastation with great interest...until that time there appears to be nothing for 2.0 D5 drivers to worry about eh Very Happy
  • Hauser
    Member Since: 31 Jul 2018
    Location: Flintbek
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    2017 Discovery Td6 HSE Lux Fuji White

    Why wait? Get a sample done yourself! Smile

    Greets,
    Hauser

    Discovery 5 (MY 2021): HSE, D300, Fuji White
    Discovery Sport (MY 2016): HSE, TD4, Firenze Red w. black roof
  • solihull
    Member Since: 05 May 2017
    Location: solihull
    Posts: 16
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    2017 Discovery Sd4 (240) HSE Corris Grey


    Hauser -
    The part with the green circle is the SCR thingy and on the D5 2.0 it is bolted onto the engine. The chances of oil dilution are low due to less chance of incomplete or partial regen's. No cases so far that I have heard about. However, analysing the oil is a good idea and I already have a Millers oil analysis tube here Very Happy But I think you should definitely be checking yours.
  • Hauser
    Member Since: 31 Jul 2018
    Location: Flintbek
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    2017 Discovery Td6 HSE Lux Fuji White

    Hi Soli,

    is that a MY19 D5 2.0?
    Because for MY17/18 I know where the DPF (SCR) is located and that it therefore doesn't suffer from the oil dilution issue. But I wrote that already a couple of times.

    And again: I am not talking about oil dilution issues here. Very Happy (Why do I have to keep saying this? Very Happy)

    Greets,
    Hauser

    Discovery 5 (MY 2021): HSE, D300, Fuji White
    Discovery Sport (MY 2016): HSE, TD4, Firenze Red w. black roof
  • solihull
    Member Since: 05 May 2017
    Location: solihull
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    2017 Discovery Sd4 (240) HSE Corris Grey

    Hi Hauser,

    Thanks for being patient, I only read the whole message trail tonight in detail. Mine is a March 2017 2.0 D5 HSE with 30kmiles/48k km on the clock.

    We have established oil dilution is not a problem on this engine. I have not had any signs of balance shaft issues so far. I do have an oil analysis bottle for the next oil change which will be in the next 11000 miles. Did you have any balance shaft issues with your DS?

    Just for the record my oil gets changed every 10000 miles or so.

    Soli
  • Hauser
    Member Since: 31 Jul 2018
    Location: Flintbek
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    2017 Discovery Td6 HSE Lux Fuji White

    Hi,

    so far I have not (balance shaft issue on my DS).
    I might be lucky, since a lot of the people that have get it before 18.000 miles. My DS did more than that.

    Greets,
    Hauser

    Discovery 5 (MY 2021): HSE, D300, Fuji White
    Discovery Sport (MY 2016): HSE, TD4, Firenze Red w. black roof
  • Hauser
    Member Since: 31 Jul 2018
    Location: Flintbek
    Posts: 153
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    2017 Discovery Td6 HSE Lux Fuji White

    There you go guys...
    Those are my oil test results (2.0L 180 PS Disco Sport). You can see that there is no oil dilution issue, but severe levels of iron and aluminium in the oil.



    Greets,
    Hauser

    Discovery 5 (MY 2021): HSE, D300, Fuji White
    Discovery Sport (MY 2016): HSE, TD4, Firenze Red w. black roof
  • DG
    Member Since: 27 Apr 2016
    Location: Surrey
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    2018 Discovery Sd4 (240) HSE Fuji White

    You can only say it's 'severe' if you offer the comparative 'normal' figures e.g what is the expected wear for this or any engine in year 1 v years 2 etc ?
  • Hauser
    Member Since: 31 Jul 2018
    Location: Flintbek
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    2017 Discovery Td6 HSE Lux Fuji White

    I did.

    In case you forgot and don't want to go back a few pages: It's 42!

    Greets,
    Hauser

    Discovery 5 (MY 2021): HSE, D300, Fuji White
    Discovery Sport (MY 2016): HSE, TD4, Firenze Red w. black roof
  • DG
    Member Since: 27 Apr 2016
    Location: Surrey
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    2018 Discovery Sd4 (240) HSE Fuji White

    Isn't that the answer to the universe? Laughing

    Still no results for the D5 to compare to the DS Whistle

    The telling thing is that in year 1 ...wouldn't you anticipate higher results due to 'running in' ...I appreciate that most engines don't require a full running in regime compared to 40 years ago but nevertheless engines always 'loosen up' after the first year ...your figures show a significant reduction in mg year 2.
  • Hauser
    Member Since: 31 Jul 2018
    Location: Flintbek
    Posts: 153
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    2017 Discovery Td6 HSE Lux Fuji White

    Hi,

    no they don't show a significant drop.
    The first test was made with more than 2.3x the milage of the second test. If you multiply the numbers by 2.3 you end up at pretty much with the same numbers as in the first test.

    Greets,
    Hauser

    P.s. Just for you... - 358 / 23383 = 0,01531026814 * 9929 = 152 (vs 133)
    or...............................133 / 9929 = 0,01339510524 * 23383 = 313 (vs 358)

    Discovery 5 (MY 2021): HSE, D300, Fuji White
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  • DG
    Member Since: 27 Apr 2016
    Location: Surrey
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    2018 Discovery Sd4 (240) HSE Fuji White

    Fair point Thumbs Up ...your figures are in 'mg per kg' how does that compare to the usual measure of ppm?
  • Hauser
    Member Since: 31 Jul 2018
    Location: Flintbek
    Posts: 153
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    2017 Discovery Td6 HSE Lux Fuji White

    mg / kg is the same as ppm. Smile Thumbs Up

    P.s. Gonna test my D5's Lion when it reaches the 10.000 km (6.000 miles). But this is gonna be some day upcoming February. So not very soon.

    Discovery 5 (MY 2021): HSE, D300, Fuji White
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  • DG
    Member Since: 27 Apr 2016
    Location: Surrey
    Posts: 434
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    2018 Discovery Sd4 (240) HSE Fuji White

    OK thanks just getting my head around it ...so 0.000358 KG or 358ppm Smile
  • Hauser
    Member Since: 31 Jul 2018
    Location: Flintbek
    Posts: 153
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    2017 Discovery Td6 HSE Lux Fuji White

    Well yeah it's 0,000358 kg iron in 1.0 kg oil. (Which is the same as 358 ppm.)

    So after 23.383 km (14.529 miles) there is 2.5 grams of iron in 7 liters engine oil. Which is the amount of an inch long M4 screw.


    Greets,
    Hauser

    Discovery 5 (MY 2021): HSE, D300, Fuji White
    Discovery Sport (MY 2016): HSE, TD4, Firenze Red w. black roof
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