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- B50int
- Member Since: 02 Sep 2018
- Location: Yorkshire
- Posts: 157
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- Bogblaster
- Member Since: 12 Dec 2017
- Location: Gloucestershire
- Posts: 32
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I haven't even got mine yet and its scaring the
out of me. A mate of mine works for JLR and said its a real problem and wont go away with the current model, only when the 48V hybrid is introduced, The hybrid doesn't use the 48V to power a motor, it uses it to burn the carbon out of the DPF so even if you stop the engine half way through the regen it will continue where it left off. Relying on diesel to get the exhaust internals up to temperature only works if the regen process completes before the engine is turned off. If it turns off half way through the fuel that's been injected into the engine on the premise that it will be blown through the exhaust and ignited doesn't, what actually happens is the engine is turned off it sits on top of the piston and then seeps through the rings; and that's where the fight starts.
The bottom line is JLR know about it, won't / can't do anything about and the problem continues, He said it will happen to anyone eventually, even the long journey commuters, personally speaking I think they (JLR) are leaving themselves open to a major headache, especially with our cousins over the pond, can you imagine a Class law suit? -
- DSL
- Member Since: 23 Jun 2016
- Location: No longer in the D4 :-(
- Posts: 134
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B50int wrote:
1863 miles and I have my first service alert
Is that a record?
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- IndusD4
- Member Since: 28 Jan 2018
- Location: Sydney
- Posts: 698
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- IndusD4
- Member Since: 28 Jan 2018
- Location: Sydney
- Posts: 698
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- DSL
- Member Since: 23 Jun 2016
- Location: No longer in the D4 :-(
- Posts: 134
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IndusD4 wrote:
Nope, there are cases of 600, 800 and "less than 1,000" miles.
You peeps have the patience of saints.
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- B50int
- Member Since: 02 Sep 2018
- Location: Yorkshire
- Posts: 157
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- DiscoStu
- Member Since: 28 Apr 2016
- Location: Greater London
- Posts: 407
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- Hauser
- Member Since: 31 Jul 2018
- Location: Flintbek
- Posts: 153
Just an info for you guys.
N222 ended October 31st.
Since November there is N222v2. Don't know what the differences are, if there are any. But if you are getting an update (like me) it's going to be N222v2.
Greets,
Hauser
Discovery 5 (MY 2021): HSE, D300, Fuji White
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- DieselRanger
- Member Since: 12 Oct 2017
- Location: God's Country, Colorado
- Posts: 768
Bogblaster wrote:
I haven't even got mine yet and its scaring the out of me. A mate of mine works for JLR and said its a real problem and wont go away with the current model, only when the 48V hybrid is introduced, The hybrid doesn't use the 48V to power a motor, it uses it to burn the carbon out of the DPF so even if you stop the engine half way through the regen it will continue where it left off. Relying on diesel to get the exhaust internals up to temperature only works if the regen process completes before the engine is turned off. If it turns off half way through the fuel that's been injected into the engine on the premise that it will be blown through the exhaust and ignited doesn't, what actually happens is the engine is turned off it sits on top of the piston and then seeps through the rings; and that's where the fight starts.
The bottom line is JLR know about it, won't / can't do anything about and the problem continues, He said it will happen to anyone eventually, even the long journey commuters, personally speaking I think they (JLR) are leaving themselves open to a major headache, especially with our cousins over the pond, can you imagine a Class law suit?
You are correct about a regen that's interrupted midstream, if each cylinder does not complete an extra exhaust cycle before it stops. Thing is, it's not a mechanical system, it's electro-mechanical. As soon as you hit the STOP button, the fuel is cut off at the injectors, and each of the cylinders, no matter where they are in the cycle, continue with momentum through a complete cycle. So any fuel injected just at the moment of shut-off will get pushed out through the exhaust port, and no other cylinders will get their post-injection dose. Recall the Td6 is a direct-injected engine, so each cylinder has its own piezo-electric injector off the common rail.
In my case, based on actual oil analysis, the vehicle is overestimating dilution by between 100% and "infinite," i.e., between 3.0% and zero measurable FIO despite the indicator stating it needs an oil change immediately because it's reached its estimated 6.1% limit. -
- B50int
- Member Since: 02 Sep 2018
- Location: Yorkshire
- Posts: 157
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- B McP
- Member Since: 29 Sep 2017
- Location: Banchory
- Posts: 62
I have a June 17 HSE Lux, and I had this message at 4500, 9500 and again at approx. 11000 miles which was only 3 months after the annual service (9500). Called into my local JLR dealer mid October and much to my surprise they took the car into the workshops immediately. Got the car back 1 hour later with counter reset and advised that oil was OK. I now know that N222 was applied at that time. Ever since then, the service counter is now working properly, so hopefully all my previous woes are now fixed - juts need to get them to fix the problem with the Oil Level check which has stopped working
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- B50int
- Member Since: 02 Sep 2018
- Location: Yorkshire
- Posts: 157
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- Pcheaven
- Member Since: 06 Jun 2017
- Location: Tunbridge wells
- Posts: 378
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- DieselRanger
- Member Since: 12 Oct 2017
- Location: God's Country, Colorado
- Posts: 768
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