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- 4x4newbie
- Member Since: 11 Feb 2021
- Location: Lancashire
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- al cope
- Member Since: 02 Jan 2019
- Location: Oldbury
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Now gone - D5 HSE 2Ltr in Corris with black roof, black & dynamic packs & 22" black alloys, a bit of a change after 2 D3's and 2 D4's
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- Windy Miller
- Member Since: 08 Dec 2020
- Location: UK
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You've done the most important things, such as anti-snap locks on the house etc. Now all you'd need to do is;
1. Deactivate keyless.
With the key fob inside car and the driver's door open, press the headlight button on the key fob 3 times, then press the unlock button on the key fob. Lock the car, and job-done, keyless is permanently deactivated and you don't have to worry about faraday pouches etc to protect against relay theft.
2. Buy a Disklok. It's all about layers of security, not just the invisible ones.
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- DG
- Member Since: 27 Apr 2016
- Location: Surrey
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If its 2018my> you don't need to deactivate keyless
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- GLYNNE
- Member Since: 29 Jun 2016
- Location: Kent
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Pop my keys next to these to look after
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- Whippetman
- Member Since: 16 Feb 2019
- Location: North Somerset
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- Windy Miller
- Member Since: 08 Dec 2020
- Location: UK
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DG wrote:
If its 2018my> you don't need to deactivate keyless
Do tell, how does 18MY> protect against relay theft?
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- mwsedgwick
- Member Since: 07 Feb 2021
- Location: UK
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- Whippetman
- Member Since: 16 Feb 2019
- Location: North Somerset
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If you have a tracker fitted it will work.
See my image when vehicle is being removed inside the truck.
15 minutes after removal I got a call and text to contact control centre as vehicle was sending correct theft alert.Tracker is LR standard equipment on my 17 HSE Lux.👍
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- Windy Miller
- Member Since: 08 Dec 2020
- Location: UK
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mwsedgwick wrote:
Surprised by this thread.
When we collect ours this week the dealership made a point about highlighting that the keys have signal codes that change every 5 seconds so it would be impossible to repeat the signal. I'm sure he said that a Discovery 5 has never been stolen by signal repeaters!?!
Also, highlighted the inbuilt tracker which is included.
I do however need to change where we store our keys overnight. Currently in full view on window sill or left in the front door over night!!!!
'Repeating' and 'relay' are two different types of thefts. Repeating 'grabs' the signal while it's being transmitted and stores it on a blank key/system to be used later, this is what the new rolling code system apparently stops. But... relay uses the signal 'live' so rolling codes don't stop it. This is the reason why I disable keyless on all my cars...
https://leasing.com/guides/relay-car-theft...-avoid-it/
So your dealer wasn't fibbing, but he wasn't telling you the whole story.
The standard 'Secure Tracker' has recently been downgraded by Thatcham to S7 (not insurance approved) level because it can be blocked/jammed within a matter of seconds and offers no protection against cloned keys. 'Secure Tracker Pro' is the new 'optional' service (it costs around £180 a year) and is S5 (insurance approved) level. Secure Tracker Pro has an extra chip in the keyfob which validates the key to the car when the car is being started, if the chip isn't identified it alerts Tracker HQ that your car has been started with a cloned key. On the remote app I also have “Guardian mode” switched on which alerts me as soon as the door is opened when I'm not with the car.
It's a bit of a rock and a hard place LR are in, they obviously don't want to be too blatant that their standard systems are so
-poor, but at the same time I personally think they don't do enough to advertise the merits of Secure Tracker Pro. For the sake of £180 a year to have a decent tracker, it's a no brainer IMO.
This is what the STP says on my InControl...
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- DG
- Member Since: 27 Apr 2016
- Location: Surrey
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Windy Miller wrote:
DG wrote:
If its 2018my> you don't need to deactivate keyless
Do tell, how does 18MY> protect against relay theft?
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- DG
- Member Since: 27 Apr 2016
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- Windy Miller
- Member Since: 08 Dec 2020
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DG wrote:
Windy Miller wrote:
DG wrote:
If its 2018my> you don't need to deactivate keyless
Do tell, how does 18MY> protect against relay theft?
Ultra-wideband ...renders interfering with the signal impossible.
Ah yes, UWB. I'd read that was now standard on e-pace, i-Pace, Discovery and FFRR, and from 2021 onwards(?), but my OCD couldn't/can't cope with not knowing if the prevention is actually there. I asked my dealer if it had UWB, but he could nether confirm or deny. There's nothing in the brochure to say it has UWB, so I'll keep Keyless disabled for the time being until I gain some more confidence. Good to know its potentially there though!
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- adds58
- Member Since: 31 Dec 2020
- Location: Sussex
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Anyone know why secure tracker pro is £180 for one year but £710 for 3 years?
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- Sacimiddx
- Member Since: 24 Sep 2016
- Location: Winchester
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