Discovery 2017

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  • dgardel
    Member Since: 23 Jun 2016
    Location: Great Venice Area
    Posts: 56
    Italy 

    100% with Russel.

    I tested both but at the end I choose the D5. Very very happy vith my choice....
    11th Apr 2021 6:07 am
  • Roli
    Member Since: 19 Jun 2020
    Location: NB
    Posts: 32
    Switzerland 

    And one more thing which made it a no-brainer for me.

    In December when I have ordered I have got a 12% discount on a 2021 D5 whereas the most I would have gotten for a Defender was 6%, Reason given, Defender is new and LR expect to sell them like hot cakes.

    That's a difference of about 6k which buys a lot of diesel.
    11th Apr 2021 6:09 am
  • Road Runner 2017
    Member Since: 14 Jan 2017
    Location: Scotland
    Posts: 2010
    Scotland 
    2018 Discovery Si6 HSE Lux Santorini Black

    Never test drove it but sat in it last month when car was in for its service. Looks nice from the outside, but more compact looking on the inside, especially the boot space.

    Price wise compared to the D5 you get alot more bang for your buck with the D5 imo.

    Agree with Russell that it's overpriced. However with regards to the interior finish I think they have deliberately dumbed it down as it's supposed to be more of a working interior, capable of taking a few bumps and scrapes, compared to the more luxury feel of the D5.

    Just a pity they never cut the price of the vehicle to reflect this. My neighbour has bought a 70 plate one, so when I have time will pop round and have a proper look at it. He did say it feels light years ahead of his old defender and no issues when towing either.
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    11th Apr 2021 8:51 am
  • Equilibrium
    Member Since: 26 Feb 2019
    Location: Bristol
    Posts: 754
    United Kingdom 
    2019 Discovery SDV6 HSE Lux Carpathian Grey

    Some great thoughts above.

    I agree on the last post, it’s a very different interior finish, but to my mind it’s not cheapened, just robust vs. Luxury. The D5 ambience blows the German competition out of the water imho, and I’d rather the Defender interior than most of them too - as the controls ooze solidity and the design is interesting. I’d have a Defender over a X5 in a heartbeat, the touch points are way nicer.

    Rather than the Defender being overpriced, I feel that the Discovery is underpriced and remains the bargain of the range. You get pretty much a base level Vogue interior in a HSE-L (and I assume that the facelift HSE is more in line with that than it is with the old HSE). And you get the 7 seats. And you get the space.

    It’s a fantastic bargain compared with pretty much anything else out there.
    Drives: 2020 MY20 HSE Luxury SDV6 in Eiger Grey/Glacier
    Departed: 2019 MY20 HSE Luxury SDV6 in Carpathian Grey/Glacier, 440i, 320d, Toyotas, Mondeo, Citroen BX amongst others
    11th Apr 2021 10:18 am
  • 2B
    Member Since: 22 Oct 2020
    Location: hillybit
    Posts: 220
    Netherlands 

    I had a loaner 6-in-line diesel for a day. The seating is higher then the D5 ; more 'command view'.
    But the seat is shorter, this I do not appreciate. The gearlever is in an odd position, the infotainment
    screen is too low positioned, you have to take your eyes off the road.

    Then, the armrest on the door is positioned too low. Same issue I had in my F-Pace : they seem to
    use a flawed ergonomic model. Even the mechanic (1.70m tall), has this issue. So its not due to the
    fact that I'm 1.98m tall..

    The steering wheel : yes its thicker and a better grip. BUT : I hate the fiddely buttons for the cruise control, and the steering wheel is too flat : my seat is further back, otherwise I don't fit.

    Overall : not a big success. I bought my D5 after this test drive... Mr. Green
    RR P400e hybrid Autobiography 2019 & MX-30 BEV
    D5 SD4 HSE 2018 Corris grey, Black roof/balckpack (SOLD), F-Type P300 Ultra Blue 2018 (SOLD)
    11th Apr 2021 10:18 am
  • Equilibrium
    Member Since: 26 Feb 2019
    Location: Bristol
    Posts: 754
    United Kingdom 
    2019 Discovery SDV6 HSE Lux Carpathian Grey

    Another comment.

    I think the Discovery is designed around its volume, whereas the Defender interior volume is constricted by its design. Clearly different priorities between the two.
    Drives: 2020 MY20 HSE Luxury SDV6 in Eiger Grey/Glacier
    Departed: 2019 MY20 HSE Luxury SDV6 in Carpathian Grey/Glacier, 440i, 320d, Toyotas, Mondeo, Citroen BX amongst others
    11th Apr 2021 10:19 am
  • Farmerben
    Member Since: 06 Feb 2021
    Location: Herefordshire
    Posts: 50
    United Kingdom 

    2B wrote:
    I had a loaner 6-in-line diesel for a day. The seating is higher then the D5 ; more 'command view'.
    But the seat is shorter, this I do not appreciate. The gearlever is in an odd position, the infotainment
    screen is too low positioned, you have to take your eyes off the road.

    Then, the armrest on the door is positioned too low. Same issue I had in my F-Pace : they seem to
    use a flawed ergonomic model. Even the mechanic (1.70m tall), has this issue. So its not due to the
    fact that I'm 1.98m tall..

    The steering wheel : yes its thicker and a better grip. BUT : I hate the fiddely buttons for the cruise control, and the steering wheel is too flat : my seat is further back, otherwise I don't fit.

    Overall : not a big success. I bought my D5 after this test drive... Mr. Green


    Isn't the steering wheel on the new Defender the same as the 2021 Disco? (Just a bit more shiny)
    11th Apr 2021 11:26 am
  • Roli
    Member Since: 19 Jun 2020
    Location: NB
    Posts: 32
    Switzerland 

    I have asked that a little while ago but got no reply.
    Would prefer a beefier steering wheel than in the up to 2020 D5s and was hoping the 21 D5 will come with the same as the Defender.
    11th Apr 2021 11:40 am
  • 2B
    Member Since: 22 Oct 2020
    Location: hillybit
    Posts: 220
    Netherlands 

    Farmerben wrote:
    Isn't the steering wheel on the new Defender the same as the 2021 Disco? (Just a bit more shiny)


    Yep, identical.
    RR P400e hybrid Autobiography 2019 & MX-30 BEV
    D5 SD4 HSE 2018 Corris grey, Black roof/balckpack (SOLD), F-Type P300 Ultra Blue 2018 (SOLD)
    11th Apr 2021 1:00 pm
  • Windy Miller
    Member Since: 08 Dec 2020
    Location: UK
    Posts: 181
    United Kingdom 

    Farmerben wrote:
    2B wrote:
    I had a loaner 6-in-line diesel for a day. The seating is higher then the D5 ; more 'command view'.
    But the seat is shorter, this I do not appreciate. The gearlever is in an odd position, the infotainment
    screen is too low positioned, you have to take your eyes off the road.

    Then, the armrest on the door is positioned too low. Same issue I had in my F-Pace : they seem to
    use a flawed ergonomic model. Even the mechanic (1.70m tall), has this issue. So its not due to the
    fact that I'm 1.98m tall..

    The steering wheel : yes its thicker and a better grip. BUT : I hate the fiddely buttons for the cruise control, and the steering wheel is too flat : my seat is further back, otherwise I don't fit.

    Overall : not a big success. I bought my D5 after this test drive... Mr. Green


    Isn't the steering wheel on the new Defender the same as the 2021 Disco? (Just a bit more shiny)

    No - defender wheel is 40cm, Disco is 39cm. Spokes are different too.
    2021 D300 R-Dynamic HSE - Carpathian Grey.
    12th Apr 2021 11:48 am
  • Roli
    Member Since: 19 Jun 2020
    Location: NB
    Posts: 32
    Switzerland 

    ..and are they of the same thickness or the Disco's thinner?
    12th Apr 2021 11:58 am
  • 2B
    Member Since: 22 Oct 2020
    Location: hillybit
    Posts: 220
    Netherlands 

    Windy Miller wrote:
    No - defender wheel is 40cm, Disco is 39cm. Spokes are different too.


    You really think I'll take a tape measure to check this ?

    The wheel is identical it what counts : the awkward switches.

    And the more recent D5 has the same - crappy - switches.

    Any car with those, I'll never buy !!!
    RR P400e hybrid Autobiography 2019 & MX-30 BEV
    D5 SD4 HSE 2018 Corris grey, Black roof/balckpack (SOLD), F-Type P300 Ultra Blue 2018 (SOLD)
    12th Apr 2021 12:17 pm
  • Windy Miller
    Member Since: 08 Dec 2020
    Location: UK
    Posts: 181
    United Kingdom 

    Roli wrote:
    ..and are they of the same thickness or the Disco's thinner?

    They have the same button layouts, but the actual wheel is different. The defender wheel is 1cm larger, the wheel is thinner (to hold), the spokes also have holes in them. Smile
    2021 D300 R-Dynamic HSE - Carpathian Grey.
    12th Apr 2021 12:36 pm
  • Roli
    Member Since: 19 Jun 2020
    Location: NB
    Posts: 32
    Switzerland 

    These are good news, thank u Windy Miller Thumbs Up
    12th Apr 2021 12:53 pm
  • DieselRanger
    Member Since: 12 Oct 2017
    Location: God's Country, Colorado
    Posts: 770
    United States 
    2017 Discovery Td6 HSE Silicon Silver

    So wish we could get the D300 here in the US. Would make the D5 ideal, but I do enough off-roading that if we could get that engine, I'd have it in the Defender in a heartbeat.

    Wonder if the 130 will offer the D350? Seems the extra size and mass would fit well with that powerplant.
    12th Apr 2021 3:04 pm
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