- Mightymildred
- Member Since: 02 Jan 2018
- Location: Durham
- Posts: 48
N222
Has anyone had this update fail yet?
- EMcC
- Member Since: 14 Apr 2018
- Location: Durrington
- Posts: 185
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What is N222, obviously an update but what does it entail and what indicates that it is required ?
- Mightymildred
- Member Since: 02 Jan 2018
- Location: Durham
- Posts: 48
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Sorry...
It’s the update for the early service warning / oil dilution.
- Mightymildred
- Member Since: 02 Jan 2018
- Location: Durham
- Posts: 48
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DR- too much other discussion about OD/Early service warning.
I havent got time to filter through general discussion.
I’m interested only in failure of N222.
- jimbg
- Member Since: 23 Jun 2016
- Location: Devon
- Posts: 1472
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What do you mean by fail?
- IndusD4
- Member Since: 28 Jan 2018
- Location: Sydney
- Posts: 698
Why would it fail? It's not a Phase 4 18C software update.
2016 D4 TDV6
IIDTool BT
- Hauser
- Member Since: 31 Jul 2018
- Location: Flintbek
- Posts: 153
Just for info:
N222 is gone! It ended October 31st.
As of November 1st there is N222v2. Don't know the differences though...
Greets,
Hauser
Discovery 5 (MY 2021): HSE, D300, Fuji White
Discovery Sport (MY 2016): HSE, TD4, Firenze Red w. black roof
- Labbix
- Member Since: 05 Mar 2018
- Location: Tanzania
- Posts: 955
FYI, from my dealer, obviously no perfect English, but this is what I got:
“
- We performed campaign TDV6 Premature Service Required Message (N222v2). I have been in discussion with JLR as well. Please find below their response: " Distance to next service is variable. The system has 3 factors, and, based on them, calculate the distance to next service. Oil dilution, distance and days to next service are those 3 factors. Each of them are represents as a distance in kilometers. The most confusing thing is days are represents as [km]. System measure mileage on the vehicle within the time range. For example - customer normally drive 1000[km] per month. and based on this calculate distance to next maintenance to be just right in time (according to the general rules). For example maintenance has to be done in 10 months, so in 10 000 [km] (average) and displays this value, but if customer will suddenly change his driving style into 500 [km] per month, system then will calculate this, (and maintenance needed in 10 months), so will show 5000 [km] to next maintenance.
This informations are basics for this system. I assume that this calculations are not made every ignition cycle. As it is not very important information.
If exists any message, please look at N222v2 service action (which is done already).
To recapitulate, I don't think this is the real concern - from technical point of view this system works properly. No actions needed ".
- IndusD4
- Member Since: 28 Jan 2018
- Location: Sydney
- Posts: 698
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Haven't LR heard of the KISS principle for software? How hard would it be to use a countdown from 26,000km (or 16,000m) according to what is actually driven. And separately a date check, 12 months from last service? Then either display the next service in distance when you get close to 0, or in weeks to the date. Whichever comes first.
2016 D4 TDV6
IIDTool BT
- Ed Snow
- Member Since: 28 Nov 2017
- Location: Norwich
- Posts: 79
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Labbix,
Re post of what Jon B50int said elsewhere:
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I have just looked on Topix and there is a service bulletin N222 (issued 5/10/18 ) for TDV6 engines that requires a Powertrain Control Module update and an oil and filter change if the vehicle is below 75% of its next service interval.
Publication No.: N222
Model: Discovery (LR)
Model Year: 2018
VIN Range: 030810 - 079568
Model: Range Rover (LG)
Model Year: 2018
VIN Range: 360475 - 516163
Model: Range Rover Sport (LW)
Model Year: 2018
VIN Range: 693135 - 813912
Model: Range Rover Sport (LW)
Model Year: 2018
VIN Range: 163397 - 414420
Date of Issue: 05/10/2018
Expiry Date: 31/10/2020
“
Maybe someone has a full Topix subscription can tell us if N222v2 is for more models?
- Labbix
- Member Since: 05 Mar 2018
- Location: Tanzania
- Posts: 955
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Wonder what the difference is than between the M17 and MY18 Td6, I thought they were the same (maybe with different software, but same engine, power and torque)?
Apparently not, so I guess JLR thinks they can ‘fix’ it for the MY18 with software, fixed it for the MY19 (with soft-and/or hardware), and leave the MY17 lonely in the desert...
